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F4-3200C16D-32GTZR non X on AMD platform with XMP?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Specifications:
Mainboard: Gigabyte X570 Gaming X (Rev. 1.0) - BIOS Version F12h
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZR (2 Sticks á 16GB) [this is the non-X -> non-AMD version]
Cooling: Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 (and 5x be quiet 140mm pure wings 2 case fans)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super
SSD: NVMe M.2 Samsung 970 Evo 1TB
PSU: Be Quiet Straight Power 11 650W


Hey there,

about half a year ago i bought the components for a new system. I checked every possible compability before buying the parts. I went to the local store and picked everything up. But the memory kit (F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX (X=AMD version)) i planned to buy was not available. So i asked the pc-hardware-guy if he knows which smiliar RAM i can use instead. So he said the F4-3200C16D-32GTZR (non X) should work. We looked it up in the qvl on the G.Skill website and it says the non-x kit should be exactly as "compatible" as the specific "AMD-Version".

I built a ton of PCs before, so the building-part ended successfully without any problems as expected. The system ran absolutely smooth and everything ran as it should be. (I usually don´t really check any Benchmarking-Scores for comparison. I only let the system run at full load for some time to check the temps). Everything turned out well. At this point i literally forgot about the RAM and XMP. So not checking this part right about then was a dumb fail. About 2 weeks ago i watched some LinusTechTips-Videos about XMP-Technology and randomly looked in my BIOS settings and saw that i had XMP not enabled and the memory ran at 2133 mhz with the timings 15-15-15-36. After endless trial and error i have to consider that i am not able to tweak the settings in a way that my RAM runs at the rated speed. HWiNFO, CPU-Z and the BIOS says that the memory is running at 1,35V, 2133 MHz and the timings 15-15-15-36. It sould be 1,35V, 3200 MHz with the timings at 16-18-18-38. I tried every possible combination of the listet settings below. But nothing helped at all.

What i have done already (checked most of the things twice):
• Checked if the two sticks are in the correct slots like the mainboard manual says. (DDR4_A2 and DDR4_B2)
• Updated the BIOS to F12h. (the latest update with memory support fixes/updates)
• Enabled the XMP Profile (profile1; there is only this one available)

• Enabled the "XMP High Frequency Support" in the BIOS (Level 1, 2, 3 and auto)

• Enabled and disabled the Gear-Down-Mode
• Checked if the RAM is in the compability-List of the Mainboard for Matisse-CPUs (Basically it is, but only the version with 4 Sticks (Q=Quad; D=Dual) [F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR ]. There is also an AMD-specific version of this kit. But the "AMD" Version of this RAM is not in the list! Don´t know why the AMD-specific version ist not listed but the non-AMD is? Maybe they checked only this one. Could be possible due to the high amount of kits.

• Checked if the RAM is on the qvl-list of G.Skill. (It is listed in there like the hardware-guy at the store and i have checked already)
(• I know the fact, that dependig on the software, the displayed RAM speed is usually divided by 2.)
• Set everything manually. (Timings, Frequency, Voltage, XMP-Profile On/Off in every possible combination)

 

Basically, after "save and exit" in the BIOS the system shuts down and boots again automatically. The moment when the fans start spinning it shuts down immediately and then boots correctly. But the first boot-attempt after changing a settings takes 2-3 minutes. After that, i cheked the timings, voltage and frequency everytime with HWiNFO, CPU-Z and the Task-Manager. It says always 2133 MHz, 15-15-15-36 independently of the saved settings. After returning to the BIOS the settings from bevore the boot-process are still in there corretly. It seems that the BIOS saves everything as it should an does not reset anything. But somehow it does not apply them.


Has anyone tested the AMD-Version of the RAM F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX with this Mainboard? Is it working properly?

And does anyone know if it is possible to run the non-AMD Version with XMP? (The QVL says it sould, but why does the exact same memory kit exists specifically as AMD-Version when both of them are listed as AMD-compatible?)

 

 

I already wrote an mail to the G.Skill-Support but got no response so far. Maybe they will contact me this week. I´ll give them some time. I wrote the mail at the weekend :D If they reply, i will post an update.

 

 

I hope that my explanation was understandable. I am not an english-native-speaker. If you want to have any photos or more infos i will reply as fast as possible :)


Thanks in advance!

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

Right, from the "Gigabyte-site" but it seems that G.Skill had tested it with this board and CPU-series and they say it is offically supported so it should work as advertised. At the link as seen on the bottom left.

 

https://www.gskill.com/configurator?page=1&cls=1529635169&manufacturer=1524715126&chipset=1562634988&model=1562637779&adSearch2=Memory_Type§DDR4,Capacity§32GB (16GBx2),Multi-Channel_Kit§Dual Channel Kit,Tested_Speed§3200MHz,Tested_Latency§16-18-18-38,

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1 minute ago, Retardos said:

Right, from the "Gigabyte-site" but it seems that G.Skill tested it with this board and they say it is offically supported so it should work as advertised. At the link as seen on the bottom left.

 

https://www.gskill.com/configurator?page=1&cls=1529635169&manufacturer=1524715126&chipset=1562634988&model=1562637779&adSearch2=Memory_Type§DDR4,Capacity§32GB (16GBx2),Multi-Channel_Kit§Dual Channel Kit,Tested_Speed§3200MHz,Tested_Latency§16-18-18-38,

I'd be more inclined to go with what Gigabyte say... but that's me.

That said, 'Official Support' & 'it'll work' aren't always the best of bed fellows.


Did you test boot it, before you built in into the case?

WHY NOT...?!

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Posted · Original PosterOP

haha okay, i would also trust the mainboard-manufacteror listings more than the memory-manufacteror ones, but i did not now that it´s possible that G.Skill lists something as compatible when it is somehow not. I have trusted this one qvl. Next time i should check both of the lists. The bad thing is that i probably can not give this kit back since i bought it about half a year ago.

 

Maybe someone else has an idea or has this kit or the x-version and can help? I would not say that i made no mistke at set all these parameters. Thats literally the first i changed any voltage, frequency or timing settings. Never done that before on any system. Maybe i overlooked something. There are so many options and possible settings in the BIOS.

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