Should I buy a burner Ryzen and wait for 4000 series or just get an XT processor

[geekpersonman]

Budget (including currency): $400 ish US dollars for cpu, (not really a hard limit just want to keep the cpu pretty balanced to the rest of the system I'm planning) $3000 ish for total

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Loads of VR (valve index 144 hz), some csgo but it's kind of a joke, also trying to get into game development. (especially vr) Mostly trying to build a system that I can grow into over time as vr gets more demanding.

Other details: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WZrkQq, haven't bought GPU, CPU, or Storage yet, Waiting on rtx 3000 (have a loaner 1070 which will do in the meantime) and am probably just going to bring over the storage already in my gaming laptop which I am replacing.

 

So here's the deal, I want to build a new gaming pc to replace my 2070 Max q powered Aero 15 which is starting to randomly turn off during intense vr workloads. This isn't the only issue with it, I've never really been pleased with its thermals, it has just not quite enough I/O, (very single port on it is full most of the time while using hubs and splitters) and really want to get into the desktop side so I have more control over my upgrade path and don't have to rebuy a whole new machine every time I want to upgrade in the future, but the shutdowns are the nail in the coffin for a device that was always only 90% acceptable. I am pretty confident about my parts list as a whole, been an avid fan of the channel for over 5 years and have put many parts lists and PCs together before, just never for myself. The thing I would like mostly like to get feedback on is whether I should be waiting for the Ryzen 4000 series (mostly eyeing a 4800x range processor) to come out at the end of 2020, (which requires me to buy a burner cpu, most likely the 3600 since I can't find a good price on the 3300x) or just hop on the 3800xt bandwagon when it is available for purchase on Tuesday. I would appreciate the help of people who follow the used markets and are familiar with how much things usually drop when parts come out because I am trying to maximize my final performance while minimizing the amount I lose by having to flip a cpu, vs just buying the 3800xt now and maybe losing out on performance gains I could have had if I had waited.

Many Thanks

[cakes73]

downgrading to a ryzen 7 3700X will save you a good 50 bucks for roughly around the same performance and I recommend going with a pahnteks case, the meshify C, or the lian li lancool 2  as they are also good alternatives to the h510, however thats up to you.

Edited July 5, 2020 by cakes73
nevermind seems you already bought the motherboard

[geekpersonman]

4 minutes ago, cakes73 said:

downgrading to a ryzen 7 3700X will save you a good 50 bucks for roughly around the same performance and I heard many good things about the x570 aorus pro which goes for roughly around the same price and it comes with wifi 6/bluetooth 5.0 as a bonus

Yeah I might consider 3700x I just like the idea of better overclocking and also getting an xt SKU, and I need the Asrock X570 Taichi for thunderbolt support as I have some thunderbolt peripherals that are essential, it also has wifi 6 and bt 5.0.

[gloop]

5 minutes ago, geekpersonman said:

just like the idea of better overclocking

Not necessarily true. A 3700x 90% of the time will oc as high as a 3800x. 

[Streetguru]

15 minutes ago, geekpersonman said:

 

That RAM isn't very good, should get some 3200mhz CL14 B-die

Just grab like an R5 1600 AF or R5 2600 and wait for 4000 if you can

 

same for the GPU, no point to buying a 2080ti with big navi and the 30 series so close, grab a used 1080ti on the cheap, or just a 2080/super

 

 

[geekpersonman]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That RAM isn't very good, should get some 3200mhz CL14 B-die

 

Can you point to a specific kit that is available? I was looking for 3600 mhz because I heard it went well with 1800 Mhz FCLK.

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Just grab like an R5 1600 AF or R5 2600 and wait for 4000 if you can

That's smart, I wasn't considering the 1600 AF because I had forgotten about it. Is this an AF I can't tell: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28

 

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

same for the GPU, no point to buying a 2080ti with big navi and the 30 series so close, grab a used 1080ti on the cheap, or just a 2080/super

I mentioned that in my post, have a 1070 loaner and am planning on Nvidia 3000 series, we'll see if amd can win me over.

[Streetguru]

30 minutes ago, geekpersonman said:

Can you point to a specific kit that is available? I was looking for 3600 mhz because I heard it went well with 1800 Mhz FCLK.

That's smart, I wasn't considering the 1600 AF because I had forgotten about it. Is this an AF I can't tell: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28

 

I mentioned that in my post, have a 1070 loaner and am planning on Nvidia 3000 series, we'll see if amd can win me over.

You should be able to overclock the B-die to 4000mhz even, when Ryzen 4000 comes out

 

any 3200mhz CL14 kit should be B-die

 

some lower cas 3600mhz kits are also B-die.

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