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Just saw a gamer meld vid about ryzen 4000 apu.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Is ryzen really going to make an 8 core 16 thread apu (4700g)? 

Scary op apu lol. 


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Why not? More power, more better. Not everyone needs a dedicated video card. If you are just mainly doing CPU bound tasks, it actually makes a lot of sense. Also great for system builders, OEMs, etc. 


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1 minute ago, Pickles - Lord of the Jar said:

Why not? More power, more better. Not everyone needs a dedicated video card. If you are just mainly doing CPU bound tasks, it actually makes a lot of sense. Also great for system builders, OEMs, etc. 

Wouldn't it make the R5 series cpus pointless? 


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Usually Apu is for low budget, so most probably 4c/8th with Apu. If you are on the market of 8/16 you most probably invest in GPU as well. Only reason for Apu on that category is trouble shooting

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3 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Wouldn't it make the R5 series cpus pointless? 

Why would it? 

Intel has technically always had APUs. I imagine these would be more expensive than the non APU SKUs as well. 

1 minute ago, PeachGr said:

Usually Apu is for low budget, so most probably 4c/8th with Apu. If you are on the market of 8/16 you most probably invest in GPU as well. Only reason for Apu on that category is trouble shooting

Not true. There's lots of reasons one would want more cores and don't need a GPU. 


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7 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

Usually Apu is for low budget, so most probably 4c/8th with Apu. If you are on the market of 8/16 you most probably invest in GPU as well. Only reason for Apu on that category is trouble shooting

It has already been confirmed there will be 4c/8t to 8c/16t APU.

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1 minute ago, PeachGr said:

Usually Apu is for low budget, so most probably 4c/8th with Apu. If you are on the market of 8/16 you most probably invest in GPU as well. Only reason for Apu on that category is trouble shooting

That's why I got confused when he showed the test benchmarks, 

 

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Why would it? 

Intel has technically always had APUs. I imagine these would be more expensive than the non APU SKUs as well. 

Not true. There's lots of reasons one would want more cores and don't need a GPU. 

In Intel's case their igpus was always not suitable for gaming but always optimized good for Adobe Premier pro, but ryzen wasn't optimized for that. 

If ryzen pushed out a 8c/16t apu it kill the 6/12 cpus for 1080p budget gaming 


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Oh wait they almost killed the 6/12 with their 1600af  already at $85.00


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21 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Wouldn't it make the R5 series cpus pointless? 

How ? 

R5's will still a cheaper option.


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10 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Oh wait they almost killed the 6/12 with their 1600af  already at $85.00

How does adding a 6c/12t kill 6c/12t?

 

Especially since its just the same products we allready had. 

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5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

How ? 

R5's will still a cheaper option.

The 4700G is coming with a vega 8 igpu that's like having a rx570-580, you're saving the price of a gpu. A 1080p apu system without a gpu. 


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1 minute ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

The 4700G is coming with a vega 8 igpu that's like having a rx570-580,

Where in the hell did you get that from lmao 

Vega 8 Is slightly behind a 550 lmao 

Its an apu 

Not the largest thing and will never beat a recent decent gpu with it's dedicated silicon.

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5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

How does adding a 6c/12t kill 6c/12t?

 

Especially since its just the same products we allready had. 

$140 compared to $85?


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1 minute ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

$140 compared to $85?

What's the 140 dollars ?

The 2600 ? 

Well fun fact. The 1600 af is just a lower binned 2600, it didn't replace anything.


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25 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

If ryzen pushed out a 8c/16t apu it kill the 6/12 cpus for 1080p budget gaming 

For the small niche of people that wouldn't be able to budget for a budget dGPU.

 

just because a "better" product stack exists, doesn't mean that a lower tier can't exist. unless you're saying the R3, R5 and R7 lines dont need to exist when the R9 chips exist

 

5 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

The 4700G is coming with a vega 8 igpu that's like having a rx570-580

are you an insane person?


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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Where in the hell did you get that from lmao 

Vega 8 Is slightly behind a 550 lmao 

Its an apu 

Not the largest thing and will never beat a gpu with it's dedicated silicon.

Thats true, hmm rx550


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Just now, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Thats true, hmm rx550

Not a 580

Which is significantly faster than both the 550 and the Vega 8.


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2 minutes ago, Arika S said:

For the small niche of people that wouldn't be able to budget for a budget dGPU.

 

just because a "better" product stack exists, doesn't mean that a lower tier can't exist. unless you're saying the R3, R5 and R7 lines dont need to exist when the R9 chips exist

 

LOL, true oh well but now I feel so bad buying the 3600


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Can't wait till August, they announce the chip. 


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11 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Can't wait till August, they announce the chip. 

Let's see how they compare to Zen 3, which should hopefully be announced in September.


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3 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Let's see how they compare to Zen 3, which should hopefully be announced in September.

Yeah, they planning to beat Intel's gaming streak cpus with the zen3s. 

Edit : I hope they win. 


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52 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

$140 compared to $85?

1600 was allready hovering around the 110$ pricepoint........

 

And on local deals 90$ ish ive heard off. 

 

47 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

LOL, true oh well but now I feel so bad buying the 3600

But why?

 

You expect the 8 core APUs to replace the 4 core ones at the same price?

1 hour ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

If ryzen pushed out a 8c/16t apu it kill the 6/12 cpus for 1080p budget gaming 

Not it wouldnt....

 

  1. Price
  2. IO
  3. 6 core with SMT will still be competetive 
  4. Most AMD cpus drop in price over time. Meaning that the 3600 will continue to be a good "budget" offering
  5. 8 core renoir wont replace the 3400G price to price. 
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4 hours ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

LOL, true oh well but now I feel so bad buying the 3600

The equivalent APU will cost more.

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