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RX 5700 XT in a pc that is just not good enough anymore.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Budget (including currency): As affordable as possible please.

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: This is to be a gaming rig.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

For now I am hoping I could use the Antec Earthwatts 650 watt (possibly is 750 watts) PSU and one of my hard drives for the new build.  Possibly may also need to use the HAF 912 case I have. 

My current pc has an i5 2500k which finally in 2019 to 2020 really is at the end of the line if you want to play new games.  I had 2 that said my pc met minimum requirements and ran bad or would not run at all.

I want to play 4K and my display is locked to 60 Hz.

I am usually an Intel guy and wanted to go the i5 9600K (9th gen) route and wishing I knew someone I could ask to borrow an older cpu so I could update the BIOS of an older board but not going to happen.  So picking out an affordable board is much tougher.  In regards to AMD I would rather go that route but when you see an Intel cpu that can boost to 4.6 GHz for the cheap price it is at it is hard to think about AMD.  In regards to an upgrade path while that is something to celebrate with AMD the thing is I had the i5 2500k pretty much since it launched so I am not one to upgrade cpus.  Honestly I think the prices are insane now and so I came here to ask for help after trying time and time again over the last month to pull the trigger on something and not being able to do so.  Btw in regards to ram I just want the cheapest, reliable ram and as for RGB with it or a motherboard I really don't care about it.  Now I have seen boards where I thought I was going to buy them and unbelievably a few did not have HDMI.  I will not be doing display port for now so need a motherboard with HDMI.

Thanks for your help.

 

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13 minutes ago, OGLT said:

 

Clock speed between intel/AMD can't be compared, same for inter generational clock speeds

Your i5 isn't the worst thing ever for 60hz gaming, you can try to hold onto it until Ryzen 4000 in Q4 for an even better jump than an R5 3600

 

what's your current GPU? And what current actual budget?





 


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Just now, Streetguru said:

Clock speed between intel/AMD can't be compared, same for inter generational clock speeds

Your i5 isn't the worst thing ever for 60hz gaming, you can try to hold onto it until Ryzen 4000 in Q4 for an even better jump than an R5 3600

 

what's your current GPU? And what current actual budget?





 

Eh I guess I should have put it in the body of the post but it was in the title.  I have an RX 5700 XT for a video card.  As for holding out for anything in Q4 I can't do that.  I want something that will be good to game at 4K with this video card now.  Paid good money for it and so don't want to see it held back by an inferior cpu.   Finally as for budget by not really saying much about that and saying I was considering using parts I already have I want to keep it as cheap as possible.  Basically what I need right now is a cpu, motherboard and ram suggestion. Btw the mention of the R5 3600 had me also looking at the R5 2600 and it is like $60 cheaper.  Finally about my i5 2500k not being the worst thing ever it is clearly dying from what I can tell it can't hold a stable 4.3 or 4.5 GHz overclock anymore and struggles even set at 4 GHz so I have leave it to boost to 3.7 GHz. I want to move on from it.   

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18 minutes ago, OGLT said:

 

If you are willing to sell the 2600 when Ryzen 4000 comes out to upgrade, then buy an MSI board with USB bios flashing like this one for safer bios flashing(assuming it has 4000 support)

If you plan to hold onto whatever CPU you buy. then spend the extra on the R5 3600 as it's like 15% faster than the last generation(ryzen 4000 is maybe a similar jump), still want the MSI board with USB bios flashing in that case, just as a back up if the bios isn't 3000 ready. The 3300X may also be a bit faster than the 2600 in games and supports up to 3600mhz RAM overclocks, but may require the more expensive board.

 

If you just want to keep the 2600, then any B450 board with a VRM heatsink will be fine and decently cheaper.

Motherboards are pretty expensive right now still, and you don't really want the cheapest RAM, that one happens to be optimized for Ryzen, whatever that means.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4WpXyk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.75 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($168.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($91.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $456.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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A 3600 will boost to 4.2 and the 3300x will get 4.3. the 3300X is a stupidly decent chip for the price, but can be hard to find. In either case 300-400Mhz is not insignificant, but you're not likely to notice a difference unless the game is heavily CPU bound. Pushing 4K, you're going to be GPU bound most of the time.

 

AM4 is at the end of it's life, so you're going to be mostly stuck upgrade-wise with either Intel or AMD at this point. You can at least do one more gen with AM4 than buying an 1151 socket with a 9th gen, but if you aren't planning to upgrade for a while, as you said, that's not really relevant.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($168.50 @ Vuugo)

I have had so much good luck with Gigabyte motherboards over the years that I really would prefer to stick with them.  Any recommendations that are Gigabyte?  Also to be honest I am more comfortable with Asus too.  Heck I remember Asus also wanting to buy back ASRock so I am interested in their boards too.  I am really just not one that is comfortable with MSI and motherboards.  Is it something I just need to shake?  Finally this Vuugo store .. I never heard of them and I think on the site it said they have been in business for 15 years.  How much have you bought from them? 

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16 minutes ago, OGLT said:

I have had so much good luck with Gigabyte motherboards over the years that I really would prefer to stick with them.  Any recommendations that are Gigabyte?  Also

MSI is the only one who makes B450 boards with USB bios flashing, very useful feature to have on AM4

not canadian.

 


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Something like this? But replace as much as possible with the parts you can recycle?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RYWkQq

 

Component   Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where  
CPU   c7baf2c9c9cc15ae23adb24c2f4316fc.256p.jpg AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $172.99   FREE   $172.99 logo2_merchant_bestbuy2.png  
Motherboard   ad927ac5699f64e9266ff834207c330f.256p.jpg Gigabyte B550 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard $139.99   FREE   $139.99 logo2_merchant_bhphotovideo.png  
Memory   9e003e10740c0e04136649de59fa2ab5.256p.jpg G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $61.99   FREE   $61.99 logo2_merchant_newegg.png  
Storage   571629ef1cd25eccd5d257c13cf695f0.256p.jpg Team GX1 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $48.99   amazon-prime.png   $48.99 logo2_merchant_amazon.png  
Storage   41JC05zWJQL.jpg Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.99   FREE   $53.99 logo2_merchant_amazon.png  
Video Card   41DaJyYiMiL.jpg ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card $379.99 -$20.00 1 FREE   $359.99 logo2_merchant_newegg.png  
Case   41j5%2BnQV10L.jpg Thermaltake V200 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $71.31   amazon-prime.png   $71.31 logo2_merchant_amazon.png  
Power Supply   f8c1ad47e393d4f927d010643c61bc8e.256p.jpg EVGA GD (2019) 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $99.99   FREE   $99.99 logo2_merchant_newegg.png  
Base Total: $1029.24    
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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600 (Base: @3.32GHz | Turbo: @4.8GHz) Hexa-Core (Intel 14nm++++) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM: G.Skill Sniper X DDR4-2666MHz CL13-15-15-30-1T (2x8GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

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Vishera-X8-9370 (old config 4)

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZW4Jtg 

Godavari-X4-880 (old config 3)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LBjbw6

Vishera-X8-8370 (old config 2)
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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-44 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Kylin 14.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZW4Jtg

Kaveri-X4-860K (old config 1)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD FX-8370 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-2133MHz CL9-11-11-31-42 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Kylin 14.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
MSM8926 - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
MSM8974AA - Blackberry Passport
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MT6797D - my|phone Brown Tab 1
SDM710 - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
50 minutes ago, Nena Trinity said:

Something like this? But replace as much as possible with the parts you can recycle?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RYWkQq

 

Component   Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where  
CPU   c7baf2c9c9cc15ae23adb24c2f4316fc.256p.jpg AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $172.99   FREE   $172.99 logo2_merchant_bestbuy2.png  
Motherboard   ad927ac5699f64e9266ff834207c330f.256p.jpg Gigabyte B550 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard $139.99   FREE   $139.99 logo2_merchant_bhphotovideo.png  
Memory   9e003e10740c0e04136649de59fa2ab5.256p.jpg G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $61.99   FREE   $61.99 logo2_merchant_newegg.png  
Storage   571629ef1cd25eccd5d257c13cf695f0.256p.jpg Team GX1 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $48.99   amazon-prime.png   $48.99 logo2_merchant_amazon.png  
Storage   41JC05zWJQL.jpg Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.99   FREE   $53.99 logo2_merchant_amazon.png  
Video Card   41DaJyYiMiL.jpg ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card $379.99 -$20.00 1 FREE   $359.99 logo2_merchant_newegg.png  
Case   41j5%2BnQV10L.jpg Thermaltake V200 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $71.31   amazon-prime.png   $71.31 logo2_merchant_amazon.png  
Power Supply   f8c1ad47e393d4f927d010643c61bc8e.256p.jpg EVGA GD (2019) 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $99.99   FREE   $99.99 logo2_merchant_newegg.png  
Base Total: $1029.24    
Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00    
Total: $1009.24

Those U.S. prices are so sweet.  Unfortunately I am in Canada.  : S 

One thing you said though that I will do is recycle as many parts as possible as I can always find used or on the cheap in the future to put the old i5 2500k back together.

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What is the performance boost I would be getting with an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 over an i5 2500k?

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Wait for new parts if you can. If not - 

Ryzen 3 3300x, RX 5700 xt, B450/B550 motherboard. Fastest DDR4 you can get without overpaying, usually 3200mhz.

Reuse your case, PSU, and SSD.

Should only be about $800 CAD, and significantly faster. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, Aereldor said:

Wait for new parts if you can. If not - 

Ryzen 3 3300x, RX 5700 xt, B450/B550 motherboard. Fastest DDR4 you can get without overpaying, usually 3200mhz.

Reuse your case, PSU, and SSD.

Should only be about $800 CAD, and significantly faster. 

I looked up the Ryzen 3 3300x and finding it available is near impossible.  Thanks for your help here.

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On 7/4/2020 at 10:49 PM, OGLT said:


I am usually an Intel guy and wanted to go the i5 9600K (9th gen) route and wishing I knew someone I could ask to borrow an older cpu so I could update the BIOS of an older board but not going to happen.  So picking out an affordable board is much tougher.  In regards to AMD I would rather go that route but when you see an Intel cpu that can boost to 4.6 GHz for the cheap price it is at it is hard to think about AMD.  In regards to an upgrade path while that is something to celebrate with AMD the thing is I had the i5 2500k pretty much since it launched so I am not one to upgrade cpus.  Honestly I think the prices are insane now and so I came here to ask for help after trying time and time again over the last month to pull the trigger on something and not being able to do so.  Btw in regards to ram I just want the cheapest, reliable ram and as for RGB with it or a motherboard I really don't care about it.  Now I have seen boards where I thought I was going to buy them and unbelievably a few did not have HDMI.  I will not be doing display port for now so need a motherboard with HDMI.

Thanks for your help.

 

What I can understand is why there isn't a heavy backing for me to get the super fast i5 9600K?  What is up with that?

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i5_9600k_processor_review,24.html

This article here totally points to it as being something to pair with a high end gpu for gaming.  

Also don't think I shared this but I will not be overclocking anything at this time as it seems there would be no need to do so with the i5 9600K or the RX 5700 XT.  With the cpu I can always get some sort of AIO water cooling solution later on.  I just am finding it hard to buy AMD when my experience with the video card has been a headache and well performance wise it is not supposed to touch this Intel solution.

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