Gaming PC 1000 - 1400 euro

Arrelius · July 4, 2020

Dear Linustechtippers,
I am looking to buy a new gaming pc and this is what i have come up with.

Budget (including currency): around 1000 - 1400 euros

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Primairily gaming, for example: Red Dead Redemption 2,Call of duty modern warfare 2, Total war Games.

Other details

Windows
Dell U2515H Monitor, 1440p 60hz.
Current PC
1. Intel 4460 CPU
2. Nvidia Geforce 970

3. MSI b85-g43 Gaming
4. CPU Cooler; 265 GB SSD; 8GB ram; Fractal Design Define R4 Pearl Black (Really liked this one); 3TB HDD and 400W power supply. If the exact specifications are relevant ill post them.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/7fZ7Nq

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€169.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler (€34.95 @ Paradigit)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€82.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€78.95 @ Azerty)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€255.95 @ Megekko)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card (€483.95 @ Megekko)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (€93.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€89.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €1290.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-04 11:41 CEST+0200

The build i have here is one i based on a build from another (dutch) website. I only switched the 5700 XT Pulse for a Red Devil; 660p 1TB SSD for the 2TB; the Cooler Master NR400 case for the Meshify C (not really sure yet) and the Corsair TX 550M for the Seasonic 550.
These changes were recommended on that forum, because they produce less noise (except for the case).

Also on the Partpicker systembuilder it had these compatibility issues:

Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Could this be a serious problem?

Any feedback on this build would be appreciated, thank you.

SleepingGiant · July 4, 2020

5 minutes ago, Arrelius said:

Also on the Partpicker systembuilder it had these compatibility issues:

Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

For the mobo, you might need to update the bios to make your cpu work in a b450 chipset.

As for the physical dimension. As you said you got that build from a working pc.(double check just to be sure every thing fits nicely)

Over all the pc specs looks good!

Mateyyy · July 4, 2020

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/DwB6Wb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€169.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.94 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€189.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€116.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€146.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card (€444.95 @ Azerty)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (€93.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€103.00 @ Azerty)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan (€24.90 @ Paradigit)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan (€24.90 @ Paradigit)

Total: €1388.34

^ Granted this is back to a 1TB SSD, but it's better overall.

Better CPU cooler, much better motherboard, better memory, better (but smaller capacity as previously mentioned) SSD, similarly good 5700XT, better power supply and a couple of high-end 140mm fans, since the Meshify C, while it does have great potential for cooling, out of the box isn't that great because of the default fan configuration (I'd mount these two fans in the front as intakes, and the two that came with the case as exhausts in the rear and top).

Nena Trinity · July 4, 2020

21 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/DwB6Wb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€169.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.94 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€189.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€116.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€146.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card (€444.95 @ Azerty)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (€93.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€103.00 @ Azerty)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan (€24.90 @ Paradigit)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan (€24.90 @ Paradigit)

Total: €1388.34

^ Granted this is back to a 1TB SSD, but it's better overall.

Better CPU cooler, much better motherboard, better memory, better (but smaller capacity as previously mentioned) SSD, similarly good 5700XT, better power supply and a couple of high-end 140mm fans, since the Meshify C, while it does have great potential for cooling, out of the box isn't that great because of the default fan configuration (I'd mount these two fans in the front as intakes, and the two that came with the case as exhausts in the rear and top).

Why not keep the GTX 970 and grab a 3700X eight core now and upgrade graphics card later?

Mateyyy · July 4, 2020

Just now, Nena Trinity said:

Why not keep the GTX 970 and grab a 3700X eight core now and upgrade graphics card later?

For OP's use case, the 3700X really isn't going to bring a notable or even noticeable improvement over a 3600. For this same reason I was thinking about picking a 10600K instead but for 1440p it won't make much of a difference really.

Keeping the 970 is not a bad idea though, considering Ampere/RDNA2 cards are coming later this year.

Arrelius · July 4, 2020

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/DwB6Wb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€169.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.94 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€189.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€116.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€146.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card (€444.95 @ Azerty)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (€93.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€103.00 @ Azerty)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan (€24.90 @ Paradigit)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan (€24.90 @ Paradigit)

Total: €1388.34

^ Granted this is back to a 1TB SSD, but it's better overall.

Better CPU cooler, much better motherboard, better memory, better (but smaller capacity as previously mentioned) SSD, similarly good 5700XT, better power supply and a couple of high-end 140mm fans, since the Meshify C, while it does have great potential for cooling, out of the box isn't that great because of the default fan configuration (I'd mount these two fans in the front as intakes, and the two that came with the case as exhausts in the rear and top).

Thanks for going through the trouble creating this build! With the 1TB SSD, i could maybe put an extra HDD in there. I have a Toshiba DT01ACA300 in my current PC, i could use that one or maybe buy another later.

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

For OP's use case, the 3700X really isn't going to bring a notable or even noticeable improvement over a 3600. For this same reason I was thinking about picking a 10600K instead but for 1440p it won't make much of a difference really.

Keeping the 970 is not a bad idea though, considering Ampere/RDNA2 cards are coming later this year.

Hmm, sounds really interesting. I am really curious about the prices, if they are about same price as the 5700 in the build then its really something to consider. And i suppose the graphics card is not the problem in my current PC, its my CPU. So many choices.

What would you do in my position?

Arrelius · July 5, 2020

Okay, i have decided to keep my 970 and upgrade the GPU later. Hopefully with one of the new GPU coming up.

I have done the following checks to make sure the 970 fits.
1. MSI MAG B550 has 2x PCI-e x16 and the 970 uses 1 PCI-e x16
2. 970 dimensions: 269mm length; 141mm width and 35mm height.
Meshify C case fits up to 315mm length GPU.
3. Not really sure about power usage, but i think im safe in assuming it does not require more power then the newer 5700XT.

Did i miss anything?