Low Gpu usage

[alex316]

Hello all,

 

I have been experiencing low gpu usage recently in games such as valorant and csgo. Usually, the usage is in the 50-60% range, sometimes dropping into the 30s. I have tried all the Nvidia Control Panel settings I have been seeing on youtube. I don’t think it is Cpu bottlenecking as my cpu usage doesn’t get close to 100%. I was wondering if you guys could suggest other fixes or know of anything that might be causing this issue. Pc specs will be down below, thanks for the help

Ryzen 5 1600

Msi Gtx 1050 ti

Corsair Vengeance 1x8gb 2400mhz

Msi B450 Tomahawk Motherboard

 

[Haro]

There's no fix 

First of all your running in single channel ( which won't affect the GPU a whole lot but will affect the cpu ) 

Second of all if a game doesn't utilize your hardware at 100% that doesn't mean there's something wrong it doesn't have to utilize 100% of it.

If you want tho 

Set the power limit to max.

[alex316]

Thank you!

[Haro]

1 minute ago, alex316 said:

Thank you!

No problem.

[LIGISTX]

11 minutes ago, alex316 said:

Hello all,

 

I have been experiencing low gpu usage recently in games such as valorant and csgo. Usually, the usage is in the 50-60% range, sometimes dropping into the 30s. I have tried all the Nvidia Control Panel settings I have been seeing on youtube. I don’t think it is Cpu bottlenecking as my cpu usage doesn’t get close to 100%. I was wondering if you guys could suggest other fixes or know of anything that might be causing this issue. Pc specs will be down below, thanks for the help

Ryzen 5 1600

Msi Gtx 1050 ti

Corsair Vengeance 1x8gb 2400mhz

Msi B450 Tomahawk Motherboard

 

It *should* be using 100% of your GPU, thats just how games work. Do you have vsync turned on, or some sort of frame rate limit? If so, thats why. If you restrict the game to not run full out and cap your FPS at your monitors refresh rate (via vsync for example), this will make your GPU work much less hard. Most folks don't prefer vsync, but its a personal preference, either way is fine for the PC, it doesn't care either way.

 

If you don't have vsync enabled, that is a bit strange. A Ryzen 1600 isn't the fastest CPU, and even though its not at 100% doesn't mean its not bottlenecking (in fact, those sort of have nothing to do with each other, if the CPU was at 100%, yes you certainly have a bottle neck, but if its not, it doesn't mean you don't), but even with that I am surprised. A 1050 ti isn't the most power GPU out there.....

 

I would check to see if vsync is on.

[alex316]

10 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

No problem.

 

2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

It *should* be using 100% of your GPU, thats just how games work. Do you have vsync turned on, or some sort of frame rate limit? If so, thats why. If you restrict the game to not run full out and cap your FPS at your monitors refresh rate (via vsync for example), this will make your GPU work much less hard. Most folks don't prefer vsync, but its a personal preference, either way is fine for the PC, it doesn't care either way.

 

If you don't have vsync enabled, that is a bit strange. A Ryzen 1600 isn't the fastest CPU, and even though its not at 100% doesn't mean its not bottlenecking (in fact, those sort of have nothing to do with each other, if the CPU was at 100%, yes you certainly have a bottle neck, but if its not, it doesn't mean you don't), but even with that I am surprised. A 1050 ti isn't the most power GPU out there.....

 

I would check to see if vsync is on.

Thanks for the reply, i have v sync off and I have no frame limit on.

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

If you don't have vsync enabled, that is a bit strange. A Ryzen 1600 isn't the fastest CPU, and even though its not at 100% doesn't mean its not bottlenecking

A 1050 it won't Bottleneck a 1600

 

5 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

It *should* be using 100% of your GPU, thats just how games work.

No? 

[LIGISTX]

3 minutes ago, alex316 said:

 

Thanks for the reply, i have v sync off and I have no frame limit on.

In that case, I would attribute it to being single channel RAM. I have a feeling the CPU is struggling to feed the GPU the data it needs. Zen 1 was more picky than most CPU’s about RAM bandwidth, and even with good bandwidth it wasn’t the fastest thing out there (still a great chip though). I bet this is the issue, it’s just not able to push enough data to the GPU. 

[LIGISTX]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

A 1050 it won't Bottleneck a 1600

 

No? 

I mean... it can. And likely is. A GPU should always be at 100% in games (usually reports as 99%), and if its getting enough data to crunch on from the CPU, it will. It’s trying to push out as many FPS as it physically can with the data provided, thus hitting 100%.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a Ryzen 1600 running on single channel RAM was a bit of a bottleneck. I mean, regardless of that, saying it’s not a bottleneck is just a false statement. A 1050 ti will get more FPS on a 10900k than it will on a 1600. Does that mean a 10900k makes any amount of sense paired with a 1050 ti, no, it doesn’t, it would be a huge waste of budget. But, point is, yes, a 1600 will bottleneck any GPU by the definition of what a bottle neck is. The question is; is it an appreciable bottleneck. That’s harder to answer. But I would suspect the single channel of RAM holding it back some. 

[Haro]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

A 1050 ti will get more FPS on a 10900k than it will on a 1600

That's because csgo is more cpu heavy.

 

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

1600 will bottleneck any GPU by the definition of what a bottle neck is

That's the technical term 

In this case, that would be a fair I guess.

2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

mean... it can. And likely is. A GPU should always be at 100% in games

My GPU doesn't go over 50% when playing csgo 

Completely normal. ( And no my system doesn't have a problem or anything. )

[alex316]

15 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

In that case, I would attribute it to being single channel RAM. I have a feeling the CPU is struggling to feed the GPU the data it needs. Zen 1 was more picky than most CPU’s about RAM bandwidth, and even with good bandwidth it wasn’t the fastest thing out there (still a great chip though). I bet this is the issue, it’s just not able to push enough data to the GPU. 

Alright so if i were to upgrade to 2x8gb 3200mhz this would fix the problem or at least help?

[LIGISTX]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That's because csgo is more cpu heavy.

My GPU doesn't go over 50% when playing csgo 

Completely normal. ( And no my system doesn't have a problem or anything. )

Yes, it is CPU heavy, but any game would gain FPS from a faster CPU. And single channel RAM on a Zen1 chip is a bit of a kneecapped situation.

 

Also, a GPU should run at 99%, unless it’s being limited, either by vsync or some other frame rate cap, or if it’s running into the max the game engine can run at (or other system inefficiencies). For CS, that’s around 300 FPS. A 1050 to won’t get getting 300 FPS, thus it should be “trying its best” to hit 300.

 

Ultimately, OP, if your FPS is fine, don’t worry about it

[alex316]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Yes, it is CPU heavy, but any game would gain FPS from a faster CPU. And single channel RAM on a Zen1 chip is a bit of a kneecapped situation.

 

Also, a GPU should run at 99%, unless it’s being limited, either by vsync or some other frame rate cap, or if it’s running into the max the game engine can run at (or other system inefficiencies). For CS, that’s around 300 FPS. A 1050 to won’t get getting 300 FPS, thus it should be “trying its best” to hit 300.

 

Ultimately, OP, if your FPS is fine, don’t worry about it

I’m alright with my FPS it’s just if I can get better performance out of my gpu  I thought I might as well.

[LIGISTX]

4 minutes ago, alex316 said:

Alright so if i were to upgrade to 2x8gb 3200mhz this would fix the problem or at least help.

It should. That would be a huge memory bandwidth jump. But, I also can’t guarantee it will. It’s hard to say with certainty, but if you tracked your FPS before and after, yes, you should see a noticeable difference.

 

BUT, what is your FPS now..? If your FPS is fine, I wouldn’t necessarily spend the money. 

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, alex316 said:

I’m alright with my FPS it’s just if I can get better performance out of my gpu  I thought I might as well.

I would do some specific research into 3200 MHz RAM for Zen 1 (your 1600). First gen Ryzen was pretty picky about RAM. I would look for RAM is on your motherboards QVL (qualified vendor list) and google around to see what people day works for sure. I’m on my phone... so would be a bit hard for me to search the QVL for you.

 

But, yes. I do believe it would make an appreciable difference. If I had to throw out a number, total guess, but I bet your FPS would increase 20-25%. But, I would also google that. Should be lots of videos of folks comparing a 1600 in single and dual channel mode in YouTube videos and I’m sure gamers nexus or anadtech has some info on it as well

[alex316]

3 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

It should. That would be a huge memory bandwidth jump. But, I also can’t guarantee it will. It’s hard to say with certainty, but if you tracked your FPS before and after, yes, you should see a noticeable difference.

 

BUT, what is your FPS now..? If your FPS is fine, I wouldn’t necessarily spend the money. 

In Valorant my FPS is between 90-160 depending on what’s happening (bombs exploding etc.) I likely won’t upgrade the ram now but maybe in the future. Thanks for all your help.

[alex316]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

I would do some specific research into 3200 MHz RAM for Zen 1 (your 1600). First gen Ryzen was pretty picky about RAM. I would look for RAM is on your motherboards QVL (qualified vendor list) and google around to see what people day works for sure. I’m on my phone... so would be a bit hard for me to search the QVL for you.

 

But, yes. I do believe it would make an appreciable difference. If I had to throw out a number, total guess, but I bet your FPS would increase 20-25%. But, I would also google that. Should be lots of videos of folks comparing a 1600 in single and dual channel mode in YouTube videos and I’m sure gamers nexus or anadtech has some info on it as well

Alright thank you so much

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, alex316 said:

Alright thank you so much

I haven't watched this in a while, but this may be a good source of info. I remember it as useful. Just not sure if it specifically deals with Zen 1. But give it a watch. Good info regardless.
 

 

[alex316]

Just now, LIGISTX said:

I haven't watched this in a while, but this may be a good source of info. I remember it as useful. Just not sure if it specifically deals with Zen 1. But give it a watch. Good info regardless.
 

 

Okay thanks!