Ryzen 5 3600 Bottleneck

[Impossible500]

I have 2 pcs that i use and 1 has a 3600 and a 1660 super but my other one runs a 3600 and a 260 super. I feel like im being bottle necked by my CPU I play fortnite a lot and i was only getting 110 fps on all epic on both pcs. Is my CPU a bottleneck for Fortnite?

[Haro]

Just now, Impossible500 said:

. Is my CPU a bottleneck for Fortnite

No 

A 3600 won't Bottleneck a 2080ti

Enable xmp / docp 

Check temps

Ddu the drivers 

Specs ?

[Impossible500]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLxjrV @TofuHaroto

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Impossible500 said:

@TofuHaroto

Enable xmp / docp 

Check temps 

Ddu the drivers.

[Impossible500]

@TofuHaroto I have xmp on for both pcs and my GPU tems are 73 "idle" not really though I think I got a virus lately its been pulsing my gpus to 100% but only sometimes on my second card but they arent in sli or cf

[Haro]

Just now, Impossible500 said:

tems are 73 "idle"

73 at IDLE ?!

what about load temps ?

[Impossible500]

@TofuHaroto here they are at 1-5% with random spikes to 100%

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Impossible500 said:

here they are at 1-5% with random spikes to 100%

Is this at idle ? 

It shows a current value of 74.

[Impossible500]

@TofuHaroto its the beat i could get i only have google open and discord settings screen snip and after burner 

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Impossible500 said:

its the beat i could get i only have google open and discord settings screen snip and after burner

Ok to put it in a simpler way 

What are your temps when your playing/ doing your normal workload ?

[LIGISTX]

9 minutes ago, Impossible500 said:

@TofuHaroto here they are at 1-5% with random spikes to 100%

Thats showing your CPU temp in the graph at the bottom.. so your at 74c CPU temp in that pic (not normal). 54c on the GPU (which is normal).

 

74c idle means your going to be thermal throttling at load... What CPU cooler do you have? Thermal paste? What CPU temps do you hit under load?

[Impossible500]

@TofuHaroto Its not working

[Impossible500]

2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Thats showing your CPU temp in the graph at the bottom.. so your at 74c CPU temp in that pic (not normal). 54c on the GPU (which is normal).

 

74c idle means your going to be thermal throttling at load... What CPU cooler do you have? Thermal paste? What CPU temps do you hit under load?

 I have the stock cooler and my cpu is at 85c

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, Impossible500 said:

Its not working

It is 

It's at 80c 

Use ddu ( display driver uninstaller ) check a video on how to use it 

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, Impossible500 said:

@TofuHaroto Its not working

This isn't a GPU issue. The graph you have enabled in MSI afterburner is for CPU temp. Your GPU temp ramped up to 79c (which is fine) under load, but look at your CPU temp graph, max of 90 and its not even doing much.

 

Use something like Asus realbench to stress test CPU, and use coretemp or hwinfo64 to monitor CPU temps. 

 

Realbench here: https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

 

coretemp here: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

[Impossible500]

2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

This isn't a GPU issue. The graph you have enabled in MSI afterburner is for CPU temp. Your GPU temp ramped up to 79c (which is fine) under load, but look at your CPU temp graph, max of 90 and its not even doing much.

 

Use something like Asus realbench to stress test CPU, and use coretemp or hwinfo64 to monitor CPU temps. 

 

Realbench here: https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

 

coretemp here: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

I use core Temp but i use an NVIDIA and an AMD card

Edited July 3, 2020 by Impossible500

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, Impossible500 said:

 I have the stock cooler and my cpu is at 85c

Yea, thats way to hot for being at idle. Any actual CPU is going to bring you to thermal throttling... Your GPU temps are fine, I doubt this is a GPU issue. Lets work on the CPU temps first as that is clearly an issue, then we will go from there.

 

With the stock cooler, is it mounted correctly? Those high idle temps indicate it could be a bad mount. I have not used an AMD heatsink before, did it come with thermal paste pre-applied (I assume it did). Did the paste get wiped off? It seems like a bad mount to me though.

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, Impossible500 said:

I use core Temp but i use an NVIDIA and an AMD card

The GPU's don't factor into coretemp at all... coretemp doesn't care what GPU you have. It will just report out the CPU temp which is what we want to know right now.

 

Your CPU should not be at 74c at idle... something is very wrong. Is the fan on the CPU heatsink spinning? Is it mounted correctly and actually sitting totally flat?

[Impossible500]

3 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Yea, thats way to hot for being at idle. Any actual CPU is going to bring you to thermal throttling... Your GPU temps are fine, I doubt this is a GPU issue. Lets work on the CPU temps first as that is clearly an issue, then we will go from there.

 

With the stock cooler, is it mounted correctly? Those high idle temps indicate it could be a bad mount. I have not used an AMD heatsink before, did it come with thermal paste pre-applied (I assume it did). Did the paste get wiped off? It seems like a bad mount to me though.

Its mounted correctly

[Impossible500]

@LIGISTX Its been running hot for a while

[LIGISTX]

5 minutes ago, Impossible500 said:

Its mounted correctly

You can't really tell if its mounted correctly from a picture. If all 4 mount points are not properly screwed down, or if the heatsink can wobble at all............... can't tell from a picutre.

 

3 minutes ago, Impossible500 said:

@LIGISTX Its been running hot for a while

That is 100% your problem. Thats WAY too hot, and max of 99c means its hitting thermal throttle. Run something like asus realbench (i linked it above) and use hwinfo64 to monitor all the core's temps. I guarantee itll hit thermal throttle and bring those clocks down to possibly low 3 ghz range which WILL "bottleneck" your GPU.

 

Your CPU is running way, way to hot, and we have to get that fixed.

[PyroTheWise]

As an example I run a R5 3600 and my normal idle temps are 35-40C.  Even when I was using the stock cooler, I never got temps that high.

 

You really should remount the stock CPU cooler.  Something is not right with the installation of the CPU cooler.   Cou you take a picture with the glass side panel removed and from an angle where we can see how it is actually installed?  The top down view doesn't help very much.

 

Here is a screenshot of my Ryzen 5 3600 at idle (only Discord and web browsers are running):

 

 

[Impossible500]

4 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

You can't really tell if its mounted correctly from a picture. If all 4 mount points are not properly screwed down, or if the heatsink can wobble at all............... can't tell from a picutre.

 

That is 100% your problem. Thats WAY too hot, and max of 99c means its hitting thermal throttle. Run something like asus realbench (i linked it above) and use hwinfo64 to monitor all the core's temps. I guarantee itll hit thermal throttle and bring those clocks down to possibly low 3 ghz range which WILL "bottleneck" your GPU.

 

Your CPU is running way, way to hot, and we have to get that fixed.

 

[LIGISTX]

Just now, Impossible500 said:

 

Run the stress test. And use hwinfo to monitor temps and such. 

 

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[Impossible500]

10 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Run the stress test. And use hwinfo to monitor temps and such. 

 

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/