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Ryzen XT: Good or bad?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm looking to buy a Ryzen 5 3600XT, but I was wondering if it was really an upgrade from the 3600X, or if it was just a dumb marketing failure with an extra letter in the name. Could anyone please give me recommendations? 

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no, that wouldnt be a major upgrade, probably best to wait for the new zen 3 and upgrade it to that


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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Oswin said:

no, that wouldnt be a major update, probably best to wait for the new zen 3 and upgrade it to that

But the question is, when is the Zen 3 architecture even coming out? I'm an impatient guy, and I can't really wait a year or two.

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Just now, EnergizedMemer said:

But the question is, when is the Zen 3 architecture even coming out? 

Late 2020.


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4 minutes ago, EnergizedMemer said:

I'm looking to buy a Ryzen 5 3600XT, but I was wondering if it was really an upgrade from the 3600X, or if it was just a dumb marketing failure with an extra letter in the name. Could anyone please give me recommendations? 

Nope just don't do it you should wait till next generation launch.


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New CPUs coming later this year. Both the 3600X and 3600XT are only marginally faster than the normal 3600. This is not an upgrade.


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Other question: Why would you want to upgrade from a 3600? It's a perfectly fine CPU.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Stahlmann98 said:

New CPUs coming later this year. Both the 3600X and 3600XT are only marginally faster than the normal 3600. This is not an upgrade.

Okay.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Stahlmann98 said:

Other question: Why would you want to upgrade from a 3600? It's a perfectly fine CPU.

Well, mine isn't working that great for some reason.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

The performance I'm getting is like I have a 1st-gen Ryzen 5. Still acceptable, but I have the money to upgrade, so why not?

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11 minutes ago, EnergizedMemer said:

The performance I'm getting is like I have a 1st-gen Ryzen 5. Still acceptable, but I have the money to upgrade, so why not?

Performance in what? I guess your Issue is somewhere else and not a slow processor. The 3600 is a very capable processor.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Stahlmann98 said:

Performance in what? I guess your Issue is somewhere else and not a slow processor. The 3600 is a very capable processor.

You won't believe it. Right now, I reinstalled Ryzen Master and it works pretty well now! I have to sort out the family PC now, though.

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14 minutes ago, EnergizedMemer said:

I'm getting is like I have a 1st-gen Ryzen 5. Still acceptable

what are doing with 1st gen r5?

overclocked to ~3.8/4g is a beast

gaming? only upgrade if you have rtx2070 or higher

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Just now, dfsgsfa said:

what are doing with 1st gen r5?

overclocked to ~3.8/4g is a beast

gaming? only upgrade if you have rtx2070 or higher

I meant that my 3rd gen R5 was performing like a 1st gen R5, but reinstalling Ryzen Master seemed to sort out the issue. I must've done something wrong.

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1 minute ago, EnergizedMemer said:

I meant that my 3rd gen R5 was performing like a 1st gen R5, but reinstalling Ryzen Master seemed to sort out the issue. I must've done something wrong.

It was probably stuck at some lower clock speed. I had this issue before with an Intel  processor and the Intel XTU (overclocking) software. Because of some bug it decided to heavily downclock the CPU cache reducing system performance.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, mathijs727 said:

It was probably stuck at some lower clock speed. I had this issue before with an Intel  processor and the Intel XTU (overclocking) software. Because of some bug it decided to heavily downclock the CPU cache reducing system performance.

I guess that probably happened with me.

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There is something more important here when it comes to upgrading. It's almost never a good idea to upgrade to the same CPU only 1 gen later. Rather instead get the 3700. That would bring so much more performance than the 3600xt I would assume. Craft computing did a cool video explaining this.


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The XTs are just binned and clock higher out of the box as a result. It's basically just the X, with better silicone. If you can get either at the same price, go with the XT. No brainer, but I wouldn't pay more for it. Though, it you compare it to the higher tier, like 5600XT vs 5700X, and just don't want to spend the extra cash, I suppose you could look at it as a stretch compromise.

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