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Iphone 8 becomes super laggy

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

My iphone 8 just randomly freezes up, overheats, and just overall stops working. It becomes completely unresponsive to the point where i cant open apps, go home, put it to sleep, or turn it off. i talked to apple multiple times and every time they say its fine, but its clearly not fine. is there anything that i could even do for it? is it even worth trying to do something should i just wait for the 12? or get the 11 pro since my phones battery life is already shit. (yes i am an apple sheep i am deep in the ecosystem, and no i do not want an android XD)

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It's probably the battery. I've been having some of these symptoms (but still to a lesser extent so far) on my 7 as the battery's gotten more and more degraded.

Either swap out the battery for a new one or just bear with it for a little longer until you get a new phone.


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Just now, Mateyyy said:

It's probably the battery. I've been having some of these symptoms (but still to a lesser extent so far) on my 7 as the battery's gotten more and more degraded.

Either swap out the battery for a new one or just bear with it for a little longer until you get a new phone.

thats the thing i got my battery replaced just 3 months ago before corona started, im starting to think i paid them to put the same battery in my phone >:(

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Well, this seems to happen to all old iPhones, if you are bold enough you can change the battery of the phone

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, mbntr said:

Well, this seems to happen to all old iPhones, if you are bold enough you can change the battery of the phone

 

would it even be worth trying to risk with most repair shops closed if i eff up

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1 hour ago, BurntNewt said:

thats the thing i got my battery replaced just 3 months ago before corona started, im starting to think i paid them to put the same battery in my phone >:(

Check the battery health of the device, also do you delete your apps running gin the background and how much storage are you using? 


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7 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

Check the battery health of the device, also do you delete your apps running gin the background and how much storage are you using? 

battery health is at 96%, i do, and i used around 120 of 256

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1 minute ago, BurntNewt said:

battery health is at 96%, i do, and i used around 120 of 256

Where do you live? 


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Just now, Lord Vile said:

Where do you live? 

in the states, my states apple stores all just got closed again... :(

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26 minutes ago, BurntNewt said:

battery health is at 96%, i do, and i used around 120 of 256

well, mine is 66%, apple batteries really suck.

I have had an iPhone 6 and a 7 and in both the battery has lasted less than 2 years.

The performance is also crap and the phone overheats constantly, if I try to shoot 4k video the battery lasts percisely 4 minutes and I'm not even exaggerating


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9 minutes ago, mbntr said:

well, mine is 66%, apple batteries really suck.

I have had an iPhone 6 and a 7 and in both the battery has lasted less than 2 years.

The performance is also crap and the phone overheats constantly, if I try to shoot 4k video the battery lasts percisely 4 minutes and I'm not even exaggerating

So I guess my phone is basically done for now then.... rip 

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1 minute ago, BurntNewt said:

So I guess my phone is basically done for now then.... rip 

If you want a jailbreak will help, you can also downgrade to an older version of IOS


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Posted · Original PosterOP
38 minutes ago, mbntr said:

If you want a jailbreak will help, you can also downgrade to an older version of IOS

Would trying the beta help? What tweaks would make it work?

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Do a fresh install of iOS. These guy's saying this happens to all old iPhone's are full of shit. I have older iPhone's that don't run like that. 96 is very good, 66 should have been replaced years ago.


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Well, since the battery is fine(assuming you got it replaced by apple or apple authorized shops), your only option is to factory reset.


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4 hours ago, BurntNewt said:

in the states, my states apple stores all just got closed again... :(

Is it warm there though? If it's 30 degrees it's not great for electronics. Other than that factory reset might help you


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Yea that's not normal... my SE first gen is on ios 14 beta and is lag free. Have you tried a factory reset?

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8 minutes ago, smeek14 said:

Yea that's not normal... my SE first gen is on ios 14 beta and is lag free. Have you tried a factory reset?

im updating to the beta rn to see if it helps, i dont see the point of a factory reset if its a software thing wouldnt me restoring from a backup just cause the same issues?

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7 minutes ago, BurntNewt said:

im updating to the beta rn to see if it helps, i dont see the point of a factory reset if its a software thing wouldnt me restoring from a backup just cause the same issues?

If an app is causing it, a factory reset with a fresh slate (no apps to start, adding them back over time) should kill off any potential software issues in one shot. The heat coming from the phone tells me the SoC is working full throttle.
 

If this was a throttling mechanism due to the battery, the heat would be minimal as the SoC would be held back to avoid voltage sag from a weak battery (reducing power consumption and heat at cost to speed), but it isn’t the case here.  Something is forcing the SoC to crank away. 


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2 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

If an app is causing it, a factory reset with a fresh slate (no apps to start, adding them back over time) should kill off any potential software issues in one shot. The heat coming from the phone tells me the SoC is working full throttle.
 

If this was a throttling mechanism due to the battery, the heat would be minimal as the SoC would be held back to avoid voltage sag (reducing power consumption and heat at cost to speed), but it isn’t the case here.  Something is forcing the SoC to crank away. 

i would do a factory reset but i have almost 9000 photos on my phone and other things i cant risk losing, i tried to do a reset of all the settings but still nothing happened

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Spend a dollar and upgrade your iCloud to 50gb and back up your stuff.


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22 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Spend a dollar and upgrade your iCloud to 50gb and back up your stuff.

Out of curiosity. Is that an one time payment or a annual one?


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I think it’s monthly tbh. I have 2 lines, one is for her. But we have 4 old phones and a couple of iPads that the kids use. Saves me a ton of time trying to manage photos. My phone is 256GB so I don’t mind getting everyone’s pictures 👌🏻
 

It’s also good for our wallet and keychain info. I’ve been using idevices for about 10 years now and only recently started using icloud a little more seriously, as I just used it to back our phones up and nothing more.

 

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Also, my hard drives are two days older than dirt and I have 8 or 9 years of photos backed up to 3 drives, 2 of them are currently powered.  But I don’t trust any of them..


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3 hours ago, BurntNewt said:

i would do a factory reset but i have almost 9000 photos on my phone and other things i cant risk losing, i tried to do a reset of all the settings but still nothing happened

Transfer them to a PC or some other external storage. Even if you were not having problems, willfully having only a singly copy of irreplaceable photos on your smartphone (you know, the single most abused piece of tech) is a very bad horrible moronic  dreadful unfortunate decision, and should be remedied ASAP.  
 

Back up your data, preferably to at least two separate places for stuff you want to keep. Then we can talk phone fixes here. Data recovery is $$$ if, by some small chance, your phone is actually broken. Ask Linus about the hard lesson he’d learned with his company data. 


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2 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Transfer them to a PC or some other external storage. Even if you were not having problems, willfully having only a singly copy of irreplaceable photos on your smartphone (you know, the single most abused piece of tech) is a very bad horrible moronic  dreadful unfortunate decision, and should be remedied ASAP.  
 

Back up your data, preferably to at least two separate places for stuff you want to keep. Then we can talk phone fixes here. Data recovery is $$$ if, by some small chance, your phone is actually broken. Ask Linus about the hard lesson he’d learned with his company data. 

so far ios 14 beta seems to be way better i havent had any major lag or unresponsiveness like had before im gonna keep it for a few days and see how it goes

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