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Do you guys remember Linus's battery problems with Samsung?

Was a software problem. 

 

Never figured out exactly what the issue was. Just went away at some point. 

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Linus made that S8 video about how he had bad battery stand by time in every Samsung phone that he had. He now uses only the Note 9. But I've didn't seen any updates from him about this issue. And if he still has this issue, why would he use a Samsung phone? I don't remember him saying that his issues were fixed. If they were, what was the problem?

 

 

And just a question do you guys think Linus will switch to iOS with iOS 14?

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Probably because Samsung doesn't make the batteries themselves and trust certain plants to produce them.   They stopped doing business with one over the Note batteries exploding, and only the batteries from that factory were problematic for that line.   As for the s8 it's probably the same issue, but with another plant if it was a mass issue.   Most companies tend to get parts from other companies.   Heck, Apple even gets screens made by Samsung.   The problem can be usually summed up to the factory screwing up in this sorta scenario.


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2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Probably because Samsung doesn't make the batteries themselves and trust certain plants to produce them.   They stopped doing business with one over the Note batteries exploding, and only the batteries from that factory were problematic for that line.   As for the s8 it's probably the same issue, but with another plant if it was a mass issue.   Most companies tend to get parts from other companies.   Heck, Apple even gets screens made by Samsung.   The problem can be usually summed up to the factory screwing up in this sorta scenario.

But I don't think it was a battery issue, as much as it was a software one. He had normal battery WHILE using it, and then when the screen was off/Always on, it would be HOT and drain the battery WAYY quicker.

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6 minutes ago, LucasAndACatFace said:

But I don't think it was a battery issue, as much as it was a software one. He had normal battery WHILE using it, and then when the screen was off/Always on, it would be HOT and drain the battery WAYY quicker.

Well, given that he's a reviewer it's possible he got a bad tech/test demo model.   It could be hw related, or SW and potentially fixed before release even or later down the road.   I do remember other complaints about the s8 not being much of an upgrade over the s7 at the time.   In fact, the s7 was beating it in key flagship areas too, or at least trading blows.   Which, is why I got the s7 and then s9 later on.   But, maybe @LinusTech himself is better at answering this for ya.


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I don’t remember what the issue was, but I remember him saying that he never found a fix and when he contacted Samsung, they couldn’t figure it out either.

Just now, valdyrgramr said:

Well, given that he's a reviewer it's possible he got a bad tech/test demo model. 

That possible, but I think he had the issue with a few of them that weren’t reviewers models.


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It's an app he uses, I'm pretty sure. Though I don't recall if he actually nailed it down to which one does it.

It's not something I'd really worry about if I were you. The chances of you having the exact same apps installed as him, with the same issue is very small.

15 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Probably because Samsung doesn't make the batteries themselves and trust certain plants to produce them.   They stopped doing business with one over the Note batteries exploding, and only the batteries from that factory were problematic for that line.   As for the s8 it's probably the same issue, but with another plant if it was a mass issue.   Most companies tend to get parts from other companies.   Heck, Apple even gets screens made by Samsung.   The problem can be usually summed up to the factory screwing up in this sorta scenario.

It has nothing to do with the battery itself. Just the battery life he gets.


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25 minutes ago, LucasAndACatFace said:

Linus made that S8 video about how he had bad battery stand by time in every Samsung phone that he had. He now uses only the Note 9. But I've didn't seen any updates from him about this issue. And if he still has this issue, why would he use a Samsung phone? I don't remember him saying that his issues were fixed. If they were, what was the problem?

 

 

And just a question do you guys think Linus will switch to iOS with iOS 14?

Strikes me as odd. Samsung is one of only a handful of companies that actually owns battery tech.  Samsung actually makes batteries.  


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It's an app he uses, I'm pretty sure. Though I don't recall if he actually nailed it down to which one does it.

It's not something I'd really worry about if I were you. The chances of you having the exact same apps installed as him, with the same issue is very small.

It has nothing to do with the battery itself. Just the battery life he gets.

Hard to say what App since he uses so many, and even so who is to blame for that.


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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Strikes me as odd. Samsung is one of only a handful of companies that actually owns battery tech.  Samsung actually makes batteries.  

They engineer them, yes, but they rely on plants to make them.   It was a plant in China that caused the issue with the note 7 then Samsung pulled away from using them as a partner.   


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4 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

They engineer them, yes, but they rely on plants to make them.   It was a plant in China that caused the issue with the note 7 then Samsung pulled away from using them as a partner.   

I think they own plants as well.  Or at least they used to. “Everything is made in China these days” is sort of a truism.  My info about batteries comes from outside the computer space.  Samsung, Sony, and LG make liion batteries used for e-cigarettes and they’re the only companies that make reliable ones afaik. Everyone else (and there are hundreds much like monitors) buy factory seconds from those companies and repackage them.  Or did.  Homegrown Chinese companies are springing up.  At first everything they made was total crap . It’s a meme.  “Made in Taiwan” Used to be a byword for cheap garbage. In the 50’s I understand it was “made in Japan”. Not any more.


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16 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Hard to say what App since he uses so many, and even so who is to blame for that.

I'd blame the dev if it's poorly optimized.

15 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

They engineer them, yes, but they rely on plants to make them.   It was a plant in China that caused the issue with the note 7 then Samsung pulled away from using them as a partner.   

Samsung SDI has multiple plants.


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I think they own plants as well.  Or at least they used to. “Everything is made in China these days” is sort of a truism.  My info about batteries comes from outside the computer space.  Samsung, Sony, and LG make liion batteries used for e-cigarettes and they’re the only companies that make reliable ones afaik. Everyone else (and there are hundreds much like monitors) buy factory seconds from those companies and repackage them.  Or did.  Homegrown Chinese companies are springing up.  At first everything they made was total crap . It’s a meme.  “Made in Taiwan” Used to be a byword for cheap garbage. In the 50’s I understand it was “made in Japan”. Not any more.

Well, Samsung said one of the plants they do business with in China was where the batteries coming from.   They stopped doing business with them because of it.   I'm not talking about the meme, but there's some truth to that meme for US citizens.   Nixon signed a deal with China to get resources from them, and we actually started having a lot of our stuff made and bought from China since then.   Is it exaggerated?   Yes.


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I'd blame the dev if it's poorly optimized.

Samsung SDI has multiple plants.

Well, optimization can only go so far.   You can also blame Samsung if it's related to a poor design on their end making it a headache for the developer.


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4 hours ago, LucasAndACatFace said:

Linus made that S8 video about how he had bad battery stand by time in every Samsung phone that he had. He now uses only the Note 9. But I've didn't seen any updates from him about this issue. And if he still has this issue, why would he use a Samsung phone? I don't remember him saying that his issues were fixed. If they were, what was the problem?

Samsung resolved this issue, hence why you don't see the Samsung phone bomb meme much anymore.

Samsung tightened down the screw on their battery quality checks. That battery fiasco almost destroyed their business.

 

4 hours ago, LucasAndACatFace said:

And just a question do you guys think Linus will switch to iOS with iOS 14?

I doubt it but anything is possible. Linus is not invested in the Apple ecosystem so it wont be his go to. The only time he uses apple phones is when he doing his review of a phone. What makes the Note 9 unique is why Linus likes it. I suggest you watch hi review of the Note9 and the WAN show were he talks about why he chose it over others. I cannot recall right now which episode that was unfortunately.

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6 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

Samsung resolved this issue, hence why you don't see the Samsung phone bomb meme much anymore.

Samsung tightened down the screw on their battery quality checks. That battery fiasco almost destroyed their business.

 

I doubt it but anything is possible. Linus is not invested in the Apple ecosystem so it wont be his go to. The only time he uses apple phones is when he doing his review of a phone. What makes the Note 9 unique is why Linus likes it. I suggest you watch hi review of the Note9 and the WAN show were he talks about why he chose it over others. I cannot recall right now which episode that was unfortunately.

If he’s got important apps he needs to run on android he won’t want to.  I switched from android to Apple and I had to give up pimlical to do it.  I didn’t rust android anymore because I quit trusting google after all they did to Gmail.   Almost didn’t though simply because moving from pimlical hurt that much.

 

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24 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

 I didn’t rust android anymore because I quit trusting google after all they did to Gmail.

Same, I still dont trust google much as I have had issue with them for some time. When I had to switch from my Lumia 950XL I ended up with the Note9 only because the switch was easier with Android than Apple, I had a few friends help me make the switch. I found that Apple was much more frustrating to use for me. I have done what I can to avoid using anything google with exception of Android. I use a windows theme and apps but I know its not the same.


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2 hours ago, LucasAndACatFace said:

Now I'm just confused how to close this thread oof 

You don’t, it stays active in case anyone else is wondering and they can see it. Only mods can turn off commenting or hide threads.


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Some German Youtubers constantly have bad  Standby Times with samsung phones (we have Exynos variants here), which they have since a few Years.

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3 hours ago, zeusthemoose said:

You don’t, it stays active in case anyone else is wondering and they can see it. Only mods can turn off commenting or hide threads.

Oh ok did they change it?

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15 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Some German Youtubers constantly have bad  Standby Times with samsung phones (we have Exynos variants here), which they have since a few Years.

I live in Brazil and we get always exynos. I don't have experience with snapdragon at all.

iPhones are really good at keeping the battery at the same level while turned off

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