help me choose MoBo and CPU for next build

[frozensun]

Budget (including currency): 700 eur max

Country: Bosnia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Adobe Premiere,Adobe Photoshop CC,Adobe After Effects,Video Encoding software

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Well guys I've been Intel fan all my life.

I thought getting 3700X which sells here for 320 euros and decent X570 board from the link I will send you although I used Intel.

When I did research about comparing like 3700X to 10700K I'm confused about those specs listed at cpumonkey concerning video encoding instructions.

Does that mean Ryzen can not do video encoding?

So 10700K is a beast but costs here like precious gold (450 eur) and no cooler,which is not that big of a deal since I own H100i (not sure if I can use it on that socket).

But then again 3900X costs a bit less and offers more cores but ofc with lower clock speed.

I'm not really sure if I need all those 12-cores,but it's a plus because I won't be boulding new PC for some years.

So offer would be maybe 3900X with good X570 board.

Sadly boards here are expensive,and to get decent board I'd need like 400 euros which raises price of both components a bit,not to mention Croshair Hero VIII or even Formula.

I do like Asrock Phantom Gaming X 570 and Taichi,and would go for Phantom Gaming but then board here costs almost 400 euros.

I read really bad experiences with Gigabyte boards,I thought they are good,but Phantom Gaming would be my pick because I like aestheics on it and read it has great VRM.

But If someone tells me it's a bad board I wouldn't get it.

So I'll send you the link from my supplier where he gets a board,choice is tight,so looking for your suggestions what to pick

https://iponcomp.com/kereses/shop?keyword=x570&ref=pbkeywordsug&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=259fb1327a369bb7cff6067e2a48839953ce4c8f-1593058644-0-ASWhigiNf6k-l-vY2_mrmqHjxKug0KgnDjjzKslnP9N9UbMSiMad-VAdnpC4up15S_eYBfR-_79Epk-avtTR0AkpU-UEJzWrqS9AYkAjKnue_Z1D9GEzi-t-C6YEUeECSWPeNBCbyYwIvYUhYgoZT1v8M_-gtRclGorIDpQeJ5RTmVsiFYr3d2ZGwigvVIcNpH0qXgLOKigrqyQ9SVErkwXDklylVr7ETf_08wGt_ZCVskouhyE_ta40TZMhYCU8l74CMvt_wqiPO_zlNF3Y6pb8YiwpTNnJXqvbJ3WhtXirMw6BlN-R8zZV4A6duDZIw70dd4pdOwnnbkpit00deFASQPiKAOnt2-ikRT0YTXsRpCm8FoD5FB7eOp6UJVcKnBHJFAPc3Ft3yng7BftOhzc

So for board and CPU I need approx 850 euros which is a lot money for AMD platform.

I really like Intel,and never had issues with my 6700K,and with AMD I read here on forums only problems (with RAM,with dying boards etc..).

I plan to do some gaming to and know 10700K would be better choice,but like each one of you,who wouldn't want more cores,though I don't think still none ofprofessionals (like mmyself)needs 12 cores,and that would be overkill.

850 euros is a lot of money so maybe I'd go for 3700X here which is 320 euros...but then again I'm sad not to go for Intel who never dissapointed me.

And the way I saw it Z490 boards seem cheaper or I am wrong...

I'd use PC for some gaming,video encoding,learning Adobe After Effects and doing Photo Editing in Photoshop.

So share your opinions give me suggestions on what to do and which platform to go for...

I forgot to mention RAM I'd use is Corsair Vengenace Pro RGB 3200MHz 32 gigs.

[Jurrunio]

10700K video encoding, you mean Quicksync (QSV)? Indeed Ryzen CPUs cannot do that since they lack onboard graphics, but GPUs these days can do and Nvidia GPUs in particular do it better than even QSV (but some software can only use QSV, check that yourself). Anyway with Ryzen CPUs they will be forced to use the CPU cores for decoding, which is way less efficient but it should still get the job done.

 

Why strictly X570? B550 can do the same job for a fraction of the price and similar delivery time (at least what the site showed me). B550F for example, costs as much as an X570-P while offering more features (other than chipset PCIe 4 lanes) than the X570 TUF Plus. B550-E even beats the X570-F at 90% the price.

[frozensun]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

10700K video encoding, you mean Quicksync (QSV)? Indeed Ryzen CPUs cannot do that since they lack onboard graphics, but GPUs these days can do and Nvidia GPUs in particular do it better than even QSV (but some software can only use QSV, check that yourself). Anyway with Ryzen CPUs they will be forced to use the CPU cores for decoding, which is way less efficient but it should still get the job done.

 

Why strictly X570? B550 can do the same job for a fraction of the price and similar delivery time (at least what the site showed me). B550F for example, costs as much as an X570-P while offering more features (other than chipset PCIe 4 lanes) than the X570 TUF Plus. B550-E even beats the X570-F at 90% the price.

No,I meant on software who do video decoding/encoding to different format,like FormatFactory,Handbrake etc..

Can Ryzen CPUs do that?

Is more cores then better option then 10700K?

Naaah B450 is a joke compared to X570,and on that site I linked they have only few B450 boards,and B550 is overpriced IMHO.

[Jurrunio]

29 minutes ago, frozensun said:

No,I meant on software who do video decoding/encoding to different format,like FormatFactory,Handbrake etc..

Can Ryzen CPUs do that?

Yes, as much as you like. They even do better in just decoding and encoding if GPUs arent allowed to help because more multithread speed.

 

30 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Is more cores then better option then 10700K?

3900X, yes. 3700x is still behind 10700k due to lower clock speed but not by much.

 

30 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Naaah B450 is a joke compared to X570,and on that site I linked they have only few B450 boards,and B550 is overpriced IMHO.

I'm not talking about B450, but B550. B550 in the site you gave link to is cheaper than X570 but offers good stuff, that;s why I recommend them.

[frozensun]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

I'm not talking about B450, but B550. B550 in the site you gave link to is cheaper than X570 but offers good stuff, that;s why I recommend them.

They only sell few boards and those are cheapest ones,only one to consider is aorus master B550 which they don't have in stock.

Check this:

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_9_3900x-931-vs-intel_core_i7_10700k-1140

Look for 3900X and video encoding on all is written NO,so I'm confused..can Ryzen do video encoding do different codecs?

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, frozensun said:

They only sell few boards and those are cheapest ones,only one to consider is aorus master B550 which they don't have in stock

I saw the B550-F and B550-E with a solid price tag on it

 

8 minutes ago, frozensun said:

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_9_3900x-931-vs-intel_core_i7_10700k-1140

Look for 3900X and video encoding on all is written NO,so I'm confused..can Ryzen do video encoding do different codecs?

no hardware encoder like Nvidia NVENC or AMD VCE, which means Ryzen relies on software brute-force encoding (and also decoding). Codecs like x264, x265 can still be used either way.

[frozensun]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I saw the B550-F and B550-E with a solid price tag on it

 

no hardware encoder like Nvidia NVENC or AMD VCE, which means Ryzen relies on software brute-force encoding (and also decoding). Codecs like x264, x265 can still be used either way.

Oooh,that sucks.How about Adobe package,which CPU is better choice with rendering?

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Oooh,that sucks.How about Adobe package,which CPU is better choice with rendering?

Ryzen, you could get hardware encoder from the graphics card.

[frozensun]

which VRM Phase conf would I need for 3900x?

[frozensun]

I think I'll go for 3700X but guys help me choose MoBo for future upgrades of CPU...from the link given above from my supplier.

It must be X570...