Linux gaming is BETTER than Windows?

[Emily Young]

Linux gaming has slowly been on the rise since our last video – Just how far has it come a year later, and can it run better than Windows?

 

 

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Try Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/
Try Pop!_OS: https://pop.system76.com/
Check out xow: https://github.com/medusalix/xow
Check out OpenRGB: https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB
Check out MangoHUD: https://github.com/flightlessmango/MangoHud
Check out GloriousEggroll Proton: https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
Check out Lutris: https://lutris.net/

 

Check out the Linux Gaming subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/

Tech Tangents' Linux Video Editing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlas9IEOyo

[kelvinhall05]

Certainly matches Windows for the vast majority of games. The only ones I have had troubles with are ones that use Battleye anti-cheat.

[Drama Lama]

the biggest problem for gaming on Linux is sadly direct X 

imagine a world with direct x support for Linux 

[Haro]

Can I move to Linux now ?

[kelvinhall05]

9 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

the biggest problem for gaming on Linux is sadly direct X 

imagine a world with direct x support for Linux 

No, it's anticheat. While DirectX is annoying to deal with, enabling Proton generally makes those games work. Anticheats like Battleye render a game completely unplayable. Sometimes I can't even launch the damn game, much less play it.

10 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Can I move to Linux now ?

Yes.

[BobVonBob]

I still have nightmares of graphics driver problems on Linux, and I last tried less than a year ago. I think I'll stick with Windows for now.

 

(supposedly this is a thing with the GTX 970 and Linux, but all I know is Windows works and Linux doesn't)

[kelvinhall05]

Just now, BobVonBob said:

I still have nightmares of graphics driver problems on Linux, and I last tried less than a year ago. I think I'll stick with Windows for now.

 

(supposedly this is a thing with the GTX 970 and Linux, but all I know is Windows works and Linux doesn't)

[Drama Lama]

5 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Proton generally makes those games work.

Games that only use Direct X can run on Windows?

[LiamDGOL]

Just as a correction. You took a shot of this article (hello, that's me :P) and mentioned NVIDIA Ray Tracing "isn't enabled yet", it is and has been for some time now. The article in question is talking about an upcoming vendor-neutral set of extensions that aren't just NVIDIA (so AMD/Intel can do it then too).

 

Quake II RTX even launched to show this, with same-day Linux support.

[FauxDragoon]

I heard a lot of Steam mention in this video but the thing I'm curious about is other platforms. I use GOG 2.0 as my central game launcher so I can install and run games off of Steam, GOG, Rockstar, Bethesda, Origin, Uplay and Twitch. Does Proton only work on games from Steam? Also what about Bnet titles like Overwatch?

[kelvinhall05]

3 minutes ago, FauxDragoon said:

I heard a lot of Steam mention in this video but the thing I'm curious about is other platforms. I use GOG 2.0 as my central game launcher so I can install and run games off of Steam, GOG, Rockstar, Bethesda, Origin, Uplay and Twitch. Does Proton only work on games from Steam? Also what about Bnet titles like Overwatch?

Proton only works for Steam games, but you can use Lutris or Wine or whatever for those other games.

[soldier_ph]

LOL, knew this was coming.

[Kon-Tiki]

A very good and interesting video. Even though I've been playing games on Linux already for a while now it did give me some new input. Thanks Anthony and Linus :)

[Senzelian]

I tried to install PopOS on a seperate partition on a MP300.
It of course tells me in the middle of the installation that it can't be installed.

No Linux gaming for me then I guess.

[Matt Kovacs]

What sadly didn't make it into the video, but is a cool addition nevertheless, is Core Control (CoreCtrl), a new app to tweak and optimize hardware on Linux. It lets you overclock your CPU or GPU (if supported by device), monitor thermals and frequencies, set power profiles or even per-game profiles, and it displays a lot of info about your system. Not as much as hwinfo, but enough for most people.

[Tallador]

I've been using Manjaro for a while and I'm loving it. But I can't get Steam to recognize DS4 controller. When plugged in, it doesn't beep, doesn't get recognized in Big Picture mode, or any of the games, and LED only displays orange, as if it's just charging, link to steam settings here. I've tried ds4drv and game-devices-udev packages from AUR. Also, I've tried using this link, this post and this post on steam community. Needless to say, I'm a bit depressed right now, since I've been reading all over Internet that Linux picks up DS4 controllers right away (as video said also).

Note: Since I don't have Bluetooth in my machine, I've only tried via USB, and I'm using cable that I got in box with controller. Same cable and same controller works just fine in Windows (still dual-booting, kinda want to get rid of that).

BTW: Loved video

[Matt Kovacs]

6 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

I tried to install PopOS on a seperate partition on a MP300.
It of course tells me in the middle of the installation that it can't be installed.

No Linux gaming for me then I guess.

Could you provide a bit more details? Have you looked at online forums or even the PopOS website for troubleshooting steps?

[KaratekHD]

It's great to see some Linux related content, would love to see more of it! 

For me, my distro of choice is OpenSUSE, I think it is forgotten to often. But it really just works, and with YaST, a lot of administrator tasks are actually easier than on Ubuntu for example. I can definitely recommend that. 

Ah, and for video editing: I love Kdenlive. I'm not a professional and don't have nearly as high expectations at an editing software, but for me, it does the job quite well, like most KDE Software.

[Computernaut]

I probably would switch to Linux, even just for the novelty, but for two things: The first is software; most of my programs would work, even my games, but if I need some random little tool to do something, or I need a program that can perform some small task for me, then I know I will be able to find that program for Windows. If I were running Linux, I would think "Oh, look I can use this program to do XYZ" and then shortly thereafter "Oh, wait, I can't, it's only available for Windows/Mac". The other main problem I have is the command line, there's a lot you can do without ever opening a terminal window, and I really should invest the time and effort to learn how to use it, but as it stands just no. Every time I've ever tried Linux, I've needed to fix something with the command line. If there's a problem you basically HAVE to use some random command. Even installing programs: "Just run this one command and you have the program!", but no, first you need all the dependencies, and you have to install them in the right order, then the program still might not work. It's just aggravatingly fiddly.

In a more general sense, I feel like Linux is just doomed to perpetually be the underdog, yes there have been improvements, yes the community might be growing, but it's not enough to make the Penguin a viable option for the majority of people.

[kelvinhall05]

10 minutes ago, Computernaut said:

there's a lot you can do without ever opening a terminal window,

You can use your computer totally normally and have full control over it without ever touching the terminal.

10 minutes ago, Computernaut said:

you basically HAVE to use some random command.

I know, copy-pasting from a stack overflow post that took me three seconds to find by Googling my problem and clicking the top search result is so hard! Much easier on Windows when I have to go through dozens of forums and stuff to find what a random BSOD code means that is caused by some obscure driver or whatever the fuck.

11 minutes ago, Computernaut said:

first you need all the dependencies, and you have to install them in the right order,

If any dependencies are required, they will get automatically installed with the program. Package managers like pamac make it super easy and intuitive. Wanna install Steam?

pamac install steam

Enter your password, you're good to go. It's not that hard. You just have to try it out.

[sub68]

2 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

Can I move to Linux now ?

as I am using linux to watch this video 

[sub68]

7 minutes ago, sub68 said:

as I am using linux to watch this video 

using mangaka mou 

[Computernaut]

2 hours ago, kelvinhall05 said:

You can use your computer totally normally and have full control over it without ever touching the terminal.

I know, copy-pasting from a stack overflow post that took me three seconds to find by Googling my problem and clicking the top search result is so hard! Much easier on Windows when I have to go through dozens of forums and stuff to find what a random BSOD code means that is caused by some obscure driver or whatever the fuck.

If any dependencies are required, they will get automatically installed with the program. Package managers like pamac make it super easy and intuitive. Wanna install Steam?

pamac install steam

Enter your password, you're good to go. It's not that hard. You just have to try it out.

Okay, point taken. I have tried using Linux on various computers that I wanted to tinker with, each time with a new objective in mind (usually something small). I have tried to stay away from the terminal, but every time I have to come crawling back. I try to install a program, and yes, sometimes I can just copy/paste a command and it works, but often I have to do some other command first that perhaps I didn't know about, or I have to download the program as a file with a strange extension, then I have to bumble my way through trying extract it, the command is always weird, and the exact steps changes based on which guide you go to. I've tried Googling problems and sometimes that works but it's no guarantee. Windows is just a matter of downloading the .exe, double-clicking on it, and then just hitting "Next" several times. No commands, no weird subtleties. I have found that dependencies are not always installed by the program, sometimes you get a long string of gobbledy-gook that is caused by a driver, or some other program, or whatever not being installed or configured properly, but of course you don't know that, you just have to guess.

I don't pull this stuff out of my ass, I have tried multiple times to do various things on Linux and every time I've had a frustrating time.

[kelvinhall05]

3 minutes ago, Computernaut said:

Okay, point taken. I have tried using Linux on various computers that I wanted to tinker with, each time with a new objective in mind (usually something small). I have tried to stay away from the terminal, but every time I have to come crawling back. I try to install a program, and yes, sometimes I can just copy/paste a command and it works, but often I have to do some other command first that perhaps I didn't know about, or I have to download the program as a file with a strange extension, then I have to bumble my way through trying extract it, the command is always weird, and the exact steps changes based on which guide you go to. I've tried Googling problems and sometimes that works but it's no guarantee. Windows is just a matter of downloading the .exe, double-clicking on it, and then just hitting "Next" several times. No commands, no weird subtleties. I have found that dependencies are not always installed by the program, sometimes you get a long string of gobbledy-gook that is caused by a driver, or some other program, or whatever not being installed or configured properly, but of course you don't know that, you just have to guess.

I don't pull this stuff out of my ass, I have tried multiple times to do various things on Linux and every time I've had a frustrating time.

You are trying to build the programs from source which is completely unnecessary. If you install from your package manager (the way you're supposed to) be it graphical or command line, it's two clicks or one command away. It's way, WAY easier and more intuitive on Windows. I have never had dependencies missing or whatever when installing programs, and if they are missing, they get installed with the program without me having to do any extra work.

 

I seriously suggest you give it another shot, but use a distro like Manjaro and don't assume installing programs on Linux is hard when you're trying to compile them from source

[Computernaut]

3 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

You are trying to build the programs from source which is completely unnecessary. If you install from your package manager (the way you're supposed to) be it graphical or command line, it's two clicks or one command away. It's way, WAY easier and more intuitive on Windows. I have never had dependencies missing or whatever when installing programs, and if they are missing, they get installed with the program without me having to do any extra work.

 

I seriously suggest you give it another shot, but use a distro like Manjaro and don't assume installing programs on Linux is hard when you're trying to compile them from source

Okay, the explains it, but sometimes I can't find a command. Anyway, I actually am taking another crack at Linux, this time with Mint using my old computer. My goal this time is to try and make it look like Windows. I tried doing it in a VM but it didn't work. If I have issues (which given my bad luck, I probably will) I'll put a thread in the OS area of the forum, maybe then you can lend some of your Linux know-how.