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New Build.. Cant decide on CPU/GPU

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Budget (including currency): £1000-£1600

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Adobe Photoshop, lightroom, AE, Premiere CS6 : Blender, Handbrake Games CIV 6: Resident Evil 3 ; Gta V Tomb Raider...

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hi Everyone  

I currently have an Acer Predator G3600 ( I5 2300 : 8gb ram :750TI) which I have owned for 9 years,  I was thinking of upgrading the MB, CPU, GPU however decided against this as the case has very poor airflow.  

 

I would like a PC that could edit GoPro 4k footage,play games like Resident Evil 3, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, CIV 6 and some 3D work in Blender.

 

**CPU**                     AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 

**Motherboard**        MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4        

**Memory**               Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 

**Storage**               Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB 

**Video Card**          MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X  

**Case**                   MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 010X ATX Mid Tower

**PSU**                    SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 650 W 80+ Platinum

**Monitor**               Acer KG271Cbmidpx 27 Inch FHD Gaming Monitor 

 

£1650 to build including the monitor.

 

I could save almost £450 if I use a Ryzen 5 3600, drop to 16gb ram and a RX 5700 XT 8GB  THICC III Ultra Etc.

 

 

All advice welcome.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Do you use OBS or other programs using nvec h264 or so? If not, just replace the RTX 2070s with the RX 5700 XT.

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Well, if you r short on cash, then drop to a Ryzen 5 3600 . I also think that 16 GB ram should be enough. But don't change the GPU 

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Have you bought any of those parts yet ? A pcie 4.0 SSD would be wasted on a B450 board as it only supports pcie 3.0. The B550 boards are due out on Tuesday.

 

As for the gpu XFX have awful customer support in the UK at least. I would look at other cards such as the Gigabyte Gaming OC, Powercolor Red Dragon/Devil, MSI Gaming X or Sapphire Pulse/Nitro. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, baeni said:

Do you use OBS or other programs using nvec h264 or so? If not, just replace the RTX 2070s with the RX 5700 XT.

Thanks for the reply and advice, something else to consider when building. 

5 minutes ago, kinglyboi said:

Well, if you r short on cash, then drop to a Ryzen 5 3600 . I also think that 16 GB ram should be enough. But don't change the GPU 

👍  

5 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Have you bought any of those parts yet ? A pcie 4.0 SSD would be wasted on a B450 board as it only supports pcie 3.0. The B550 boards are due out on Tuesday.

 

As for the gpu XFX have awful customer support in the UK at least. I would look at other cards such as the Gigabyte Gaming OC, Powercolor Red Dragon/Devil, MSI Gaming X or Sapphire Pulse/Nitro. 

I have not purchased any parts yet... Did want the X570 TOMAHAWK but prices can be as much as £380 for a £220 rrp board.

Another thing to think about is customer support...thanks for the advice.

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You didn't mention the RAM specs in your post. Try to get 3600Mhz with the lowest timings you can afford.

 

Edit: 

If you are set on Crucial Balistix RGB then these:

2x8GB: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

 

2x16GB: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/33WBD3/crucial-ballistix-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4bl


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Phanteks Evolv X
  • 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • Corsair HX1000i
  • Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown), Corsair Scimitar Elite, Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Asus Z97A
  • G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-28
  • EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • Corsair AX760
  • Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Corsair H115i RGB
  • Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue), crap wireless mouse she insists on using (lol), SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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44 minutes ago, Dark Ryu said:

Thanks for the reply and advice, something else to consider when building. 

👍  

I have not purchased any parts yet... Did want the X570 TOMAHAWK but prices can be as much as £380 for a £220 rrp board.

Another thing to think about is customer support...thanks for the advice.

The X570 Tomahawk can be ordered (Pre-ordered) from Overclockers UK for £219.95, but still best to wait until Tuesday and see what other options there are.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
26 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

You didn't mention the RAM specs in your post. Try to get 3600Mhz with the lowest timings you can afford.

 

Edit: 

If you are set on Crucial Balistix RGB then these:

2x8GB: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

 

2x16GB: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/33WBD3/crucial-ballistix-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4bl

Thanks :) not set on any parts yet, any others I should consider ?

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Posted · Original PosterOP
35 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The X570 Tomahawk can be ordered (Pre-ordered) from Overclockers UK for £219.95, but still best to wait until Tuesday and see what other options there are.

Will do 👍 

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19 minutes ago, Dark Ryu said:

Thanks :) not set on any parts yet, any others I should consider ?

If you have the cash a fast kit, CL14.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2Cdrxr/gskill-trident-z-neo-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c14d-16gtznb?history_days=365

 


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Phanteks Evolv X
  • 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • Corsair HX1000i
  • Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown), Corsair Scimitar Elite, Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Asus Z97A
  • G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-28
  • EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • Corsair AX760
  • Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Corsair H115i RGB
  • Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue), crap wireless mouse she insists on using (lol), SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

Total waste of money.

That's a matter of perspective. Considering it's for a gaming PC, arguably the entire thing is a waste of money. I spent much more than that on my memory back in 2018, and I'm glad I did, because it overclocks like a champ and keeps up with modern offerings.


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Phanteks Evolv X
  • 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • Corsair HX1000i
  • Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown), Corsair Scimitar Elite, Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Asus Z97A
  • G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-28
  • EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • Corsair AX760
  • Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Corsair H115i RGB
  • Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue), crap wireless mouse she insists on using (lol), SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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12 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

That's a matter of perspective. Considering it's for a gaming PC, arguably the entire thing is a waste of money. I spent much more than that on my memory back in 2018, and I'm glad I did, because it overclocks like a champ and keeps up with modern offerings.

No it's a matter of price/performance. You can get a 32GB kit for less than that overpriced 16GB kit. And there won't be much difference anyway between a 3200MHz and a 3600MHz for gaming, and certainly not enough to warrant an extra £140 or so.

 

 


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4 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

No it's a matter of price/performance. You can get a 32GB kit for less than that overpriced 16GB kit. And there won't be much difference anyway between a 3200MHz and a 3600MHz for gaming, and certainly not enough to warrant an extra £140 or so.

 

 

Why waste money on a 3200Mhz kit? You can get a perfectly good 3000Mhz kit and save $10. You won't notice the difference anyway...

 

Why buy computer parts at all? They lose 25% of their value the moment you open the package. Might as well buy stocks or bonds with the money instead.


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Phanteks Evolv X
  • 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • Corsair HX1000i
  • Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown), Corsair Scimitar Elite, Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Asus Z97A
  • G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-28
  • EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • Corsair AX760
  • Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Corsair H115i RGB
  • Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue), crap wireless mouse she insists on using (lol), SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Why waste money on a 3200Mhz kit? You can get a perfectly good 3000Mhz kit and save $10. You won't notice the difference anyway...

 

Why buy computer parts at all? They lose 25% of their value the moment you open the package. Might as well buy stocks or bonds with the money instead.

Now you are just talking silly to try and justify your recommendation. Also the op is using £ not $ and £140 could be the difference between a higher tier gpu which will make more of a difference than the overpriced Ram.


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Just now, lee32uk said:

Now you are just talking silly to try and justify your recommendation. Also the op is using £ not $ and £140 could be the difference between a higher tier gpu which will make more of a difference than the overpriced Ram.

Okay.


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Phanteks Evolv X
  • 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • Corsair HX1000i
  • Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown), Corsair Scimitar Elite, Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Asus Z97A
  • G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-28
  • EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • Corsair AX760
  • Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Corsair H115i RGB
  • Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue), crap wireless mouse she insists on using (lol), SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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