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Start saving your Benjamins - Founder's Edition RTX 3000 cooler purportedly costs $150 just to make

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Toss this one in the "Really damn OOF if real but I'll try to keep expectations realistic" list. 

 

The rumor mill for NVIDIA's RTX 3000 series has been quite interesting lately, with some cooler shrouds of what looks like Founder's Edition cards leaking earlier. 

 

Igor's Lab (formerly Tom's Hardware Europe, which broke off after the "RTX Just Buy It" debacle) has reported that the shroud design is likely to be at least close to final. 

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I had recently posted various information about the new generation of graphics cards from NVIDIA and also processed them in the video, but I was still a little bit reluctant with regard to the currently leaked pictures of the RTX 3080 Founders Edition (FE). First I wanted to wait for confirmation whether and to what extent these are real pictures. As I have now learned from my own sources, NVIDIA has announced an internal investigation into the leak. The focus here is on Foxconn and BYD (Build Your Dreams) as contract manufacturers of the Founders Edition, where one suspects the source of the leak. So you can confirm the authenticity of the pictures.

A more interesting piece is how much it costs to manufacture, which is purportedly a whopping $150 

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As a small side note it should be mentioned that not even NVIDIA's product and sales manager should have seen these pictures before the leak. It remains to be seen whether Nvidia will still make various changes to punish the leak a little bit. The remaining 3 months are easily enough for mechanical changes, which is more difficult with the very complex PCB of the VU. Speaking of coolers - the industry is currently rumored to have a manufacturing price of a whopping 150 USD for the entire construction of the FE, i.e. the housing and cooler in one piece. This also suggests the positioning and pricing of the Founders Edition, which you would like to significantly upgrade again.

 

But I have more information for you that goes a little bit more than the picture leak. The somewhat more complex cooler design of the FE requires a special circuit board with an additional cutout. The internal designation is given with PG133 and the board should be used equally for all three versions on the launch day. The use of flexible power supply cables, which lead to the separate sockets at the end of the card, is also right here. The PCB and these cables alone will be a real challenge for manufacturers of GPU water blocks.

It is important to note that this is very much a rumor and there's still some lack of information such as the actual MSRP and how much the AIB cards that you and I will be more likely to purchase will cost. 

 

With all that said, if all this is true, the FE RTX 3000 cards at least may cost a pretty series of Benjamins over MSRP. 

 

Source: Igor's Lab (German)

Igor's Lab (English)

 

My take 

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Still a ton of question marks over this before I can even comfortably come to a proper conclusion, but with the assumption that all this is true, wew, that ain't gonna come cheap. 

 


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Awaits the GamersNexus teardown.

 

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GTX1650 MSRP $150
RTX3080 MSRP $150 (Cooler only. Graphics card not included)


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3 minutes ago, Spotty said:

GTX1650 MSRP $150
RTX3080 MSRP $150 (Cooler only. Graphics card not included)

Good deal 


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That's a big oof.


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Just now, TetraSky said:

That's a big oof.

That word.... It scares me 


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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

The current gen FE coolers were good enough.

WHY NVIDIA WHY ? 

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

That word.... It scares me 

OOF


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1 minute ago, Void Master said:

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

The current gen FE coolers were good enough.

WHY NVIDIA WHY ? 

Reinventing the wheel, I suppose. 

 

I'm interested to see how this may affect AIB pricing for the upper end cards like the MSI Gaming Trio series 


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9 minutes ago, Spotty said:

GTX1650 MSRP $150
RTX3080 MSRP $150 (Cooler only. Graphics card not included)

Sounds like an eBay scam.  Lol.  


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Just now, nick name said:

Sounds like an eBay scam.  Lol.  

Just a legal one 


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That word.... It scares me 

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Good effort 

A+ 


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5 minutes ago, D13H4RD said:

Reinventing the wheel, I suppose. 

 

I'm interested to see how this may affect AIB pricing for the upper end cards like the MSI Gaming Trio series 

As if they are giving EVGA KO models a reason to exist after all.


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From what is visible so far, I have to doubt that $150 figure. I don't see anything particularly challenging in the assembly. Is it different from what we typically see, sure. But it isn't that different. The additional complexity would add cost for sure, but it still seems excessive. 

 

Note manufacturing costs are often listed as BOM costs, effectively material only. You add transformation cost to turn it into a thing. Lost of other stuff happens and it might appear on a shelf somewhere. Even if that $150 were attributed to the retail price, and not earlier stages, it seems like a lot. Doesn't add up.


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1 minute ago, porina said:

From what is visible so far, I have to doubt that $150 figure. I don't see anything particularly challenging in the assembly. Is it different from what we typically see, sure. But it isn't that different. The additional complexity would add cost for sure, but it still seems excessive. 

Certainly not challenge but from the leaks it looks expensive 

All the fins the aluminum (while cheap I guess the molding is expensive maybe )


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1 minute ago, porina said:

From what is visible so far, I have to doubt that $150 figure. I don't see anything particularly challenging in the assembly. Is it different from what we typically see, sure. But it isn't that different. The additional complexity would add cost for sure, but it still seems excessive. 

 

Note manufacturing costs are often listed as BOM costs, effectively material only. You add transformation cost to turn it into a thing. Lost of other stuff happens and it might appear on a shelf somewhere. Even if that $150 were attributed to the retail price, and not earlier stages, it seems like a lot. Doesn't add up.

Pretty much. There's still a lot of question marks in my head regarding how that $150 figure came up. 

 

That said, we don't know what else is inside the shroud, so there definitely are still holes to be filled, that'll hopefully be the case as time goes on. 


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I'm just gonna stick with good old large stack of fins and a lot of large fans on it. FE cards are stupid overpriced anyway and I'd have to buy it from NVIDIA directly which is extra fiddling and extra customs expenses. This is electronic gadgetry, it'll be a paper weight in 10 years time.

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Soon: 3000$ build with 3080 ti and 3300x... because CPU doesn't matter at 4k gaming 

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I hope AMD slaps down Big Navi at 699 and makes Nvidia's stack look like a joke. I keep hearing $999 3080ti again. How about no.

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Strong likelihood of AIBs taking reference from FE pricing, and MSRP ending much further from reality

 

People will still gobble it up anyway


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4 hours ago, Void Master said:

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

The current gen FE coolers were good enough.

WHY NVIDIA WHY ? 

OOF

Rumors the new RTX card has 375w TDP. The current FE cooler won't cut it.

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1 hour ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

Those rumors also include the 3060 being close to the 2080 in performance and the 3070 being above that so, I don't even see a need to go 3080 and above, unless you have some 4k 140+hz display ?

We’ll see closer to release. I think some of these rumors might be a bit too good, so I’m keeping expectations in check.


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1 hour ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

Those rumors also include the 3060 being close to the 2080 in performance and the 3070 being above that so, I don't even see a need to go 3080 and above, unless you have some 4k 140+hz display ?

Next Gen, and the ability to turn shit up to high. It's not like GPU's are just gonna outstrip the games, the games will be made to look better to keep up.

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