Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vishera said: That's what makes it fluid dynamics and not hydrodynamics or aerodynamics... You used the wrong term... FYI, air (gas) becomes fluid at high speed. In fact, fluid dynamics applies to gas flow in general. Just ask GE, they design turbines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, StDragon said: FYI, air (gas) becomes fluid at high speed. In fact, fluid dynamics applies to gas flow in general. Just ask GE, they design turbines. My point is that hydrodynamics and aerodynamics are fluid dynamics,but hydrodynamics is not aerodynamics. A PC Enthusiast since 2011 AMD Ryzen 7 5700X@4.65GHz | GIGABYTE GTX 1660 GAMING OC @ Core 2085MHz Memory 5000MHz Cinebench R23: 15669cb | Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme: 3566 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, suicidalfranco said: the reason why i'll never buy reference Ironically this is the exact same reason I always at least consider reference. I take your point though. Not a pro, not even very good. I’m just old and have time currently. Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake. Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Vishera said: My point is that hydrodynamics and aerodynamics are fluid dynamics,but hydrodynamics is not aerodynamics. Semanitcs. The math is identical. You’re not wrong though. This gets into whether penguins fly. I think they do. Just not in air. Not a pro, not even very good. I’m just old and have time currently. Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake. Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 Hey guys, I have made an RTX render animation on Unreal Engine 4 of my RTX3080 model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, tor6770 said: Hey guys, I have made an RTX render animation on Unreal Engine 4 of my RTX3080 model Fantastic! Had this video been available prior, I would have voted differently on the design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, tor6770 said: Hey guys, I have made an RTX render animation on Unreal Engine 4 of my RTX3080 model I think that NVIDIA uses different vent design on the IO shield,other than that it looks fairly accurate. Good Job Example: A PC Enthusiast since 2011 AMD Ryzen 7 5700X@4.65GHz | GIGABYTE GTX 1660 GAMING OC @ Core 2085MHz Memory 5000MHz Cinebench R23: 15669cb | Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme: 3566 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Vishera said: I think that NVIDIA uses different vent design on the IO shield,other than that it looks fairly accurate. Good Job Example: Yeah, I should have included at least one USB type C, or maybe 2, I can still change it, but now it too late to catch the hype train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 Stacking multiple RTX 3080 prototypes, the air will pass through. This system will allow the air passing through one GPU to other. This Is a special feature and also fan blades are surrounded by a turbo ring winglet. My sensation is that the system is a push from one side and pull from the other side because the camber airfoil profile of the blade looks reversed. It looks to me that can be a pull extractor and not an intake. In any case air will pass through one GPU to other If not the blade will spin in opposite direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 @Alan Mattano Something doesn't add up. I've rotated the top card to be oriented the same way as bottom one (the way you'd fit it into a case) and it seems to be inverted cooler placement on the top card. The lack of PCIe connector bothered me. Because it's on the other side and the cooler is hiding it! Does this mean if you'll go with SLi you'll have to pick asymmetrically designed cards so they fit together better, so they don't suffocate each other's cooling? Just not sure which would go on top and which on the bottom. This is confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 @RejZoR Hi, I think what you mean is that you flip it (using a horizontal mirror). If real, then this are tow different assembly layout prototypes proposals and maybe not intended to work together or work at all. This is a standard processes any industry. So they can have different hiding fans on the other side with different airflow. This are two different blades. they are only protos. It could be that the bottom GPU is blowing hot air to the memory (and CPU). And they whant to test that. and the top GPU (on the original picture) the one fans is extracting air out from memory and cpu. Lucubration presumption: On sketches could it be reversible. Or original designer intention was reversible and loos that ability in the feasibility production process. We do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 Good catch @RejZoR. And it's not just an issue in that sense, it would mean the cooler shroud would be raised up from the PCI-E slot in the direction of the CPU cooler. Given clearance issues MB's can have somtimes with larger CPU coolers and the PCI-E slot thats not a good configuration. Conversely if i'm wrong and the bottom card has the PCIE slot on the side closest to the camera that isn't an issue. However it's a bit odd IMO that the name is stamped then on what would effectively be the backplate. Usually it's on the frontplate and/or side most prominently. Also hasn't NVIDIA effectively abandoned SLI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 17 hours ago, RejZoR said: @Alan Mattano Something doesn't add up. I've rotated the top card to be oriented the same way as bottom one (the way you'd fit it into a case) and it seems to be inverted cooler placement on the top card. The lack of PCIe connector bothered me. Because it's on the other side and the cooler is hiding it! Does this mean if you'll go with SLi you'll have to pick asymmetrically designed cards so they fit together better, so they don't suffocate each other's cooling? Just not sure which would go on top and which on the bottom. This is confusing. This flipping about does display a problem. With the chassis connector in the same orientation the pcie connector is now on opposite sides for each cooler. The two coolers can’t be the same. More indication that there may be something not right about this leak. This may just be a restatement if what you said. Not a pro, not even very good. I’m just old and have time currently. Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake. Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Alan Mattano said: @RejZoR Hi, I think what you mean is that you flip it (using a horizontal mirror). If real, then this are tow different assembly layout prototypes proposals and maybe not intended to work together or work at all. This is a standard processes any industry. So they can have different hiding fans on the other side with different airflow. This are two different blades. they are only protos. It could be that the bottom GPU is blowing hot air to the memory (and CPU). And they whant to test that. and the top GPU (on the original picture) the one fans is extracting air out from memory and cpu. Lucubration presumption: On sketches could it be reversible. Or original designer intention was reversible and loos that ability in the feasibility production process. We do not know. Just noticed different curvature on fan blades and I don't think it's just perspective at work. Also that ring around blades seems to suggest it has to be a directional fan and not one that would have to push air sideways through fins. 4 hours ago, CarlBar said: Good catch @RejZoR. And it's not just an issue in that sense, it would mean the cooler shroud would be raised up from the PCI-E slot in the direction of the CPU cooler. Given clearance issues MB's can have somtimes with larger CPU coolers and the PCI-E slot thats not a good configuration. Conversely if i'm wrong and the bottom card has the PCIE slot on the side closest to the camera that isn't an issue. However it's a bit odd IMO that the name is stamped then on what would effectively be the backplate. Usually it's on the frontplate and/or side most prominently. Also hasn't NVIDIA effectively abandoned SLI? NVIDIA abandoned multi-SLi. They still go with dual SLi. It kinda still makes sense as no one can make single GPU faster than two. Even if it doesn't scale perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 cooler could cost up to 150 USD alone: Quote https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-cooler-could-cost-up-to-150-usd-alone https://linustechtips.com/topic/1381504-community-standards/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 Author The edited image by RejZor appears to be a flip (mirror, not rotate), so thanks for adding more confusion to this topic. That render of how it could be constructed, personally I don't think they would need that fat a PCB as it only needs to carry power. There's a fair chance they might use wires instead, which would block the through airflow less. Main system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 3x 16GB 2R, RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 i think it looks fine what were the complaints? I'd be more pissed if it was just another stupid black rectangle like everything else in this world is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 The design is an okay looking one. Looks as if it will be a dust magnet. As long as there's some great 2 slot designs coming from the AIBs ill be fine. My machine is so damn tight that i can only have a 2S GPU, otherwise I'm loosing a USB card or a secondary PCIe M.2. As i only have a mATX machine. Intel i9 9900X | EVGA X299 Micro 2 | Asus GTX 1070 Strix Gaming 8GB | G.Skill 32GB DDR4 (4X8GB) 3200 | EVGA 280mm CLC Seasonic 1300w Focus Gold | Samsung 500GB 970 EVO WD Black 2TB/WD Black 1TB (X2)/Seagate 4TB Ironwolf/Crucial 1TB P1/Crucial MX500 500GB/Samsung 1TB QVO Phanteks Entho Evolve MATX Samsung LS29E790C 29 Inch Monitor | LG 24UD58 24 inch 4K UHD Coolermaster Master Keys Pro RGB (Cherry MX Brown) Logitech G700s Razer Leviathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 13 hours ago, porina said: The edited image by RejZor appears to be a flip (mirror, not rotate), so thanks for adding more confusion to this topic. That render of how it could be constructed, personally I don't think they would need that fat a PCB as it only needs to carry power. There's a fair chance they might use wires instead, which would block the through airflow less. What confusion? I just rotated it visually so it is positioned the same as the below one (which is in a position of installation into PCIe slot). See the mounting bracket for the rear of the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, RejZoR said: What confusion? I just rotated it visually so it is positioned the same as the below one (which is in a position of installation into PCIe slot). See the mounting bracket for the rear of the case... It wasn't rotated, it was mirrored. So it doesn't represent what the original image shows. If you wanted a rotated one, it was already present as the lower GPU in the original image. Main system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 3x 16GB 2R, RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, porina said: It wasn't rotated, it was mirrored. So it doesn't represent what the original image shows. If you wanted a rotated one, it was already present as the lower GPU in the original image. I think you're misunderstanding description here. I've rotated a physical card. If image was mirrored or not is entirely irrelevant. Mirroring it doesn't magically change the alignment of the mounting bracket in relation to the backplate, PCB or the cooler. They are all still in the same fixed positions relative to the bracket. I just oriented bracket to the same position as the bottom card. Which revealed that the cards are not oriented the same way (one has backplate facing up like all the graphic cards and the above one had backplate facing down (or cooler up however you want to call it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 Author 6 minutes ago, RejZoR said: I think you're misunderstanding description here. I've rotated a physical card. If image was mirrored or not is entirely irrelevant. Correct, I don't understand what you are trying to show. The original image, showing the two sides of presumably the same card, makes perfect logical sense. What you are doing, I'm lost. Main system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 3x 16GB 2R, RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, porina said: Correct, I don't understand what you are trying to show. The original image, showing the two sides of presumably the same card, makes perfect logical sense. What you are doing, I'm lost. I think the point that presuming it is the same card might not be right. It doesn’t automatically mean it’s not. It’s a fly in the ointment though. We may not know as much as we think we do about how the thing is put together. Not a pro, not even very good. I’m just old and have time currently. Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake. Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said: I just dont see what the fan in the back is connected to cool. Also the way this "interpretation" is made, but if you focus on the white shroud part where it says "geforce rtx" , it seems it physically separates the blue and red , so no air will be out or through the red heat fins ? It just does not make much sense or am I just that stupid, or maybe I am not supposed to think that critically of that image since its just an interpretation ? There seem to be several sorts of suppositions about how these things are put together. I personally view it as one theory. Not a pro, not even very good. I’m just old and have time currently. Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake. Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 10, 2020 @porina Actually, you are correct. After inspecting the image again and checking positioning I made a mistake there because I took a shortcut and flipped the image using mirror instead of rotating it enough times. I've corrected the image and now they are actually positioned the same way, top one is just lifted so you see it from the "bottom" side. If you "lay" it down keeping the orientation it would be placed the same. PCB, PCIe connector and backplate (which isn't visible) are now in the correct position/side. Still, when two cards are sandwiched in SLi, one fan will be suffocated (the left one). Right one will either have a pass through from above one or just dragging some air out of those fins above it. Also I hope everyone understands I was rotating the top card so I get it positioned the same as the bottom one on the original image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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