Help with a build

[Sadaweya]

Budget (including currency): up to 2000 € + monitor (more budget for the monitor)

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: used for gaming, planning for demanding games.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€367.99 @ Alternate Italia) ---->on amazon italia at 300€
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: *MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€131.41 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€85.36 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€209.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (€807.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: *NZXT H710 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€150.53 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2, 80+ GOLD 650W 
Keyboard: something functional, durable and not too flashy?
Monitor: 1440p 144hz, i found This on amazon but i don't really know how to choose one

notes:
The case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port that the MSI B450M MORTAR MAX can't handle, should i change motherboard?
Dont know if a 550w power supply will do, and 650w is priced the same as the 750w, for that reason i went with the 750w.

are there any problems with this build or something i should change?

Ty for the help
 

 

[boggy77]

looks good, enjoy!

[F.E.A.R.]

Change the case with a Fractal Design Meshify C or Meshify S2 or a Cooler Master H500M. NZXT cases are a fire hazard.

[JJCooper_]

you probably should ditch B450 and get an X570 board. Its overall a better chipset.

https://www.amazon.it/Gigabyte-X570-AORUS-ELITE/dp/B07TSKR7ZX/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2OMT6OT999ROY&dchild=1&keywords=x570+aorus+elite&qid=1591366418&sprefix=x570+aorus+%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.it/ASUS-Gaming-X570-Plus-scheda-Type-C/dp/B07TNSYXXV/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=x570+msi&qid=1591366446&sr=8-6

https://www.amazon.it/MSI-X570-Gaming-Scheda-madre/dp/B07T8HJVY8/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=x570+msi&qid=1591366470&sr=8-4

[Boomwebsearch]

6 minutes ago, Sadaweya said:

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€367.99 @ Alternate Italia) ---->on amazon italia at 300€
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia)

 

Since you are going for a high-end aftermarket cooler, are you planning on overclocking or need silent cooling performance, if not then something like this will work great (the included Ryzen coolers are good although a bit noisy):

https://www.amazon.it/DEEP-COOL-GAMMAXX-Ventola-Aggiornata/dp/B082DZ8184/ref=sr_1_8?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=3S453IY6H5LL9&dchild=1&keywords=deepcool+gammax&qid=1591366605&sprefix=deepcool+ga%2Caps%2C248&sr=8-8

 

10 minutes ago, Sadaweya said:

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€367.99 @ Alternate Italia) ---->on amazon italia at 300€

Would recommend upgrading to a 3800X if the price is the same or slightly more expensive since you will get better performance, a better included cooler, better overclocking potential, etc:

https://www.amazon.it/AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X-Processori/dp/B07SXMZLPJ/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=amd+ryzen+7+3800x&qid=1591366445&sr=8-1

[Sadaweya]

update
   

2 hours ago, F.E.A.R. said:

Change the case with a Fractal Design Meshify C or Meshify S2 or a Cooler Master H500M. NZXT cases are a fire hazard.

going for the Fractal Design Meshify C case, it come with 2 fans(1 front, 1 rear), should i buy more?
the case have max psu length of 175mm but the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 is 180mm and should not fit, so i'm powering it down to 650w(that is 165mm)

 

2 hours ago, JJCooper_ said:

you probably should ditch B450 and get an X570 board. Its overall a better chipset.

 

dropped the b450 for the asus x570 plus with wifi

 

2 hours ago, Boomwebsearch said:

Since you are going for a high-end aftermarket cooler, are you planning on overclocking or need silent cooling performance, if not then something like this will work great (the included Ryzen coolers are good although a bit noisy):

 

i don't plan to overclock in the short term, but i probably will try in a few month and the more silent it is the better

 

2 hours ago, Boomwebsearch said:

Would recommend upgrading to a 3800X if the price is the same or slightly more expensive since you will get better performance, a better included cooler, better overclocking potential, etc:

 

switch out 3700x for 3800x --->its only 30€ more

 

 

here is the new plan.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€331.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€239.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€85.36 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€209.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (€807.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€102.65 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €1875.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 18:20 CEST+0200

Monitor: 1440p 144hz, i found This 

psu:[url=https://www.amazon.it/EVGA-SuperNOVA-automatico-Alimentazione-Alimentazione-220-G2-0650-Y2/dp/B014JNH3BC/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=Seasonic+650W+80+Plus+Titanium&qid=1591269626&quartzVehicle=5-104&replacementKeywords=seasonic+650w+plus+titanium&sr=8-3] evga supernova 650w [/url] 130€

 

total 2k €

[Guest]

3 hours ago, JJCooper_ said:

you probably should ditch B450 and get an X570 board. Its overall a better chipset.

https://www.amazon.it/Gigabyte-X570-AORUS-ELITE/dp/B07TSKR7ZX/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2OMT6OT999ROY&dchild=1&keywords=x570+aorus+elite&qid=1591366418&sprefix=x570+aorus+%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.it/ASUS-Gaming-X570-Plus-scheda-Type-C/dp/B07TNSYXXV/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=x570+msi&qid=1591366446&sr=8-6

https://www.amazon.it/MSI-X570-Gaming-Scheda-madre/dp/B07T8HJVY8/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=x570+msi&qid=1591366470&sr=8-4

The chipset is irrelevant, because you have boards like the MSI X570 Gaming Edge that you linked which is absolute crap. He would be better waiting for B550.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

Since you are going for a high-end aftermarket cooler, are you planning on overclocking or need silent cooling performance, if not then something like this will work great (the included Ryzen coolers are good although a bit noisy):

https://www.amazon.it/DEEP-COOL-GAMMAXX-Ventola-Aggiornata/dp/B082DZ8184/ref=sr_1_8?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=3S453IY6H5LL9&dchild=1&keywords=deepcool+gammax&qid=1591366605&sprefix=deepcool+ga%2Caps%2C248&sr=8-8

 

Would recommend upgrading to a 3800X if the price is the same or slightly more expensive since you will get better performance, a better included cooler, better overclocking potential, etc:

https://www.amazon.it/AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X-Processori/dp/B07SXMZLPJ/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=amd+ryzen+7+3800x&qid=1591366445&sr=8-1

The 3800X is 35 Euros more expensive. Not worth it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sadaweya said:

update
   

going for the Fractal Design Meshify C case, it come with 2 fans(1 front, 1 rear), should i buy more?
the case have max psu length of 175mm but the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 is 180mm and should not fit, so i'm powering it down to 650w(that is 165mm)

 

dropped the b450 for the asus x570 plus with wifi

 

i don't plan to overclock in the short term, but i probably will try in a few month and the more silent it is the better

 

switch out 3700x for 3800x --->its only 30€ more

 

 

here is the new plan.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€331.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€239.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€85.36 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€209.89 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (€807.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€102.65 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €1875.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 18:20 CEST+0200

 

psu:[url=https://www.amazon.it/EVGA-SuperNOVA-automatico-Alimentazione-Alimentazione-220-G2-0650-Y2/dp/B014JNH3BC/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=Seasonic+650W+80+Plus+Titanium&qid=1591269626&quartzVehicle=5-104&replacementKeywords=seasonic+650w+plus+titanium&sr=8-3] evga supernova 650w [/url] 130€

 

total 2k €

Some suggestions.

 

Stick with the 3700X. The 3800X isn't worth the extra 35 Euros.

 

You could easily go with a cheaper air cooler such as the Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo.

 

I would suggest waiting until June 16th if possible for B550. If going X570 then the MSI X570 Tomahawk is better than any at the 230 Euro price point. It is due out any day now (Already people in the UK with it).

 

A Sabrent Rocket 1TB is cheaper than the 970 EVO. 

 

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/N7zkcf/sabrent-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-1tb

 

Maybe get a better version of the 2080 Super. The Gigabyte Windforce is a bit cheaper.

[Nena Trinity]

3700x if you buy any aftermarket cooler since 3700x is same chip if you enable PBO, which you should do since OCing Ryzen is pointless since PBO does it better.

[F.E.A.R.]

1 hour ago, Sadaweya said:

going for the Fractal Design Meshify C case, it come with 2 fans(1 front, 1 rear), should i buy more?
the case have max psu length of 175mm but the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 is 180mm and should not fit, so i'm powering it down to 650w(that is 165mm)

Well you will need to buy aftermarket case fans for the Fractal Case. The Fractal Design Meshify S2 has a PSU length of 300mm and CM H500M a length of 200mm if you don't want to "power down" on your PSU.

[Sadaweya]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Stick with the 3700X. The 3800X isn't worth the extra 35 Euros.

 

back to the 3700k

 

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

You could easily go with a cheaper air cooler such as the Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo.

 

the 3700x have a stock wraith prism, is that fine or do i need to buy a cooler?

https://www.amazon.it/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-Processori/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=3700x&qid=1591385901&sr=8-1

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

I would suggest waiting until June 16th if possible for B550.

no problem waiting till june 16th, the gpu won't arrive until the 20th

 

 

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

A Sabrent Rocket 1TB is cheaper than the 970 EVO. 

 

going for the 60 less bucks

 

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Maybe get a better version of the 2080 Super. The Gigabyte Windforce is a bit cheaper.

the gigabyte windforce is 810€ now

 

i have another question, are the extra 200€ for the 2080super worth over the 2070super?

 

3 hours ago, F.E.A.R. said:

Well you will need to buy aftermarket case fans for the Fractal Case

ok

 

 

thanks for the help

 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Sadaweya said:

back to the 3700k

 

the 3700x have a stock wraith prism, is that fine or do i need to buy a cooler?

https://www.amazon.it/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-Processori/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=3700x&qid=1591385901&sr=8-1

no problem waiting till june 16th, the gpu won't arrive until the 20th

 

 

going for the 60 less bucks

 

the gigabyte windforce is 810€ now

 

i have another question, are the extra 200€ for the 2080super worth over the 2070super?

 

ok

 

 

thanks for the help

 

 

The stock cooler is ok, but if you find it too noisy then just buy a cheapish air cooler like the Arctic one, or a Gelid Phantom/Black etc.

 

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/dmXnTW/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00060a

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/J7ZzK8/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00074a

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/6C4BD3/gelid-solutions-phantom-cpu-cooler-cc-phantom-01-a

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/jmmFf7/gelid-solutions-phantom-black-cpu-cooler-cc-phantom-black-01-a

 

I personally don't think the 2080 Super is worth an extra 200 Euros. A 5700XT is even better value if you don't mind an AMD gpu and performs well at 1440p. Not sure what is available in stock, but the Gigabyte Gaming OC, Sapphire Pulse/Nitro, Powercolor Red Dragon/Red Devil and MSI Gaming X are all good. 

[Sadaweya]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€302.89 @ Amazon Italia) 

going with stock cooler for now,
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€316.00) 

or  a b550 if it came in a reasonable time
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€91.24 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€149.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card  (€585.70 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€102.65 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€133.00) 
Total: €1681.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-06 14:40 CEST+0200