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$500 GPU Budget, but which one?

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save the money and get a 5700xt or 5700


Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

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6 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

Hello! I am building a new PC and I was wondering what is the best GPU for $500. 
Hopping to have an x570, (maybe b550) with a Ryzen 5 3600. 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-rtx-2070-super-ventus-gp-oc/p/N82E16814137528?item=N82E16814137528 

This is what im thinking, what are y'all's thoughts? 

Since you are building new PC at that price the 2070 super seems to be the obvious choice unless you can wait a bit longer till the next generation GPUs arrive from both AMD and Nvidia.


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1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

save the money and get a 5700xt or 5700

I hear this a lot, but very few people can explain why to go with this card. 

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Just now, P3rfectLIVE said:

I hear this a lot, but very few people can explain why to go with this card. 

cheaper with almost all the performance

 


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1 minute ago, vinit6694skr said:

Since you are building new PC at that price the 2070 super seems to be the obvious choice unless you can wait a bit longer till the next generation GPUs arrive from both AMD and Nvidia.

What would the benefits of waiting for the new gpu sets to drop? I'm assuming the price would fall a little but a 2070 is still a 2070. I could understand waiting to see what AMD brings to the table. 

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1 minute ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

I hear this a lot, but very few people can explain why to go with this card. 

Better value for money. But the 2070 super has ray tracing and dlss cores which should be considered too while making a buying choice.


System Specs:

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @3.40ghz (6C/12T)
  • Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-K
  • RAM: Corsair LPX 2*8GB DDR4 @3200mhz CL16
  • GPU: Zotac Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 (TU-104 variant) 6GB GDDR6
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2 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

What would the benefits of waiting for the new gpu sets to drop? I'm assuming the price would fall a little but a 2070 is still a 2070. I could understand waiting to see what AMD brings to the table. 

the new cards from both sides will bring higher end performance to a lower cost so 2070 super performance maybe only 250$ vs the 375$+


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Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 250 intel 730, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6

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2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

the new cards from both sides will bring higher end performance to a lower cost so 2070 super performance maybe only 250$ vs the 375$+

Exactly and newer cards should offer better ray tracing performance too and with dlss 2.0 even better.


System Specs:

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @3.40ghz (6C/12T)
  • Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-K
  • RAM: Corsair LPX 2*8GB DDR4 @3200mhz CL16
  • GPU: Zotac Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 (TU-104 variant) 6GB GDDR6
  • Case: Antec GX202
  • Storage
  • SSD: WD 240GB,
    HDD: Toshiba 1 TB @7200rpm
  • PSU: Corsair CX550 (2017 grey unit)
  • Display(s): BenQ 22 inches monitor, 1080p @ 60hz
  • Cooling: 3 Antec case fans 120 mm (2 blue LED front intake and 1 non LED rear exhaust)
  • Sound: Behringer UMC22 USB Audio interface, AudioTechnica ATH M20x studio headphones
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5 minutes ago, vinit6694skr said:

Better value for money. But the 2070 super has ray tracing and dlss cores which should be considered too while making a buying choice.

Ray Tracing is an interesting purchase, I feel its pointless since the newer GPUs will have a them anyway, so buying it would be like buying a 980 when you know the 1080 is coming out. 

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9 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

I hear this a lot, but very few people can explain why to go with this card. 

because the 5700xt is cheaper and has the same if not better performance than a 2070(ive gotten mine to about the same performance as a stock 2080)

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7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

the new cards from both sides will bring higher end performance to a lower cost so 2070 super performance maybe only 250$ vs the 375$+

 

3 minutes ago, vinit6694skr said:

Exactly and newer cards should offer better ray tracing performance too and with dlss 2.0 even better.


I won't be able to purchase a newer 3000 series cards as they will be out of my price range. 
I am hopping that this GPU will last me atleast 5+ years of atleast 144fps. (I don't care much for super high ultra realistic graphics, I play comp so the most frames possible the better.) 

I am reluctant to go with an AMD GPU, I know a lot about NVIDIA products and very very little about AMD GPUs. I do have a freesync monitor though so hey. 

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7 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

Ray Tracing is an interesting purchase, I feel its pointless since the newer GPUs will have a them anyway, so buying it would be like buying a 980 when you know the 1080 is coming out. 

Yes it's your choice if you are willing to wait. It will be worth 😊 I purchased a RTX 2060 around 15 days back but it was an upgrade from GT 710 and I couldn't wait longer to play games if I had a better GPU which could actually game i would have definitely waited.


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  • Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-K
  • RAM: Corsair LPX 2*8GB DDR4 @3200mhz CL16
  • GPU: Zotac Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 (TU-104 variant) 6GB GDDR6
  • Case: Antec GX202
  • Storage
  • SSD: WD 240GB,
    HDD: Toshiba 1 TB @7200rpm
  • PSU: Corsair CX550 (2017 grey unit)
  • Display(s): BenQ 22 inches monitor, 1080p @ 60hz
  • Cooling: 3 Antec case fans 120 mm (2 blue LED front intake and 1 non LED rear exhaust)
  • Sound: Behringer UMC22 USB Audio interface, AudioTechnica ATH M20x studio headphones
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8 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

because the 5700xt is cheaper and has the same if not better performance than a 2070(ive gotten mine to about the same performance as a stock 2080)

 

14 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

the new cards from both sides will bring higher end performance to a lower cost so 2070 super performance maybe only 250$ vs the 375$+

 

16 minutes ago, vinit6694skr said:

Better value for money. But the 2070 super has ray tracing and dlss cores which should be considered too while making a buying choice.


Recommended 5700XT? 

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22 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

save the money and get a 5700xt or 5700

100% agreed.

 

get a 5700 and follow my guide here to flash it to a 5700 xt, 100% recommend, you will get the better clocks of a 5700xt, but with a few less cores, it will save you $50.

 

I can recommend this card , ive flashed it with a 5700xt bios, it has a bios switch, and stays cool at higher clocks and voltages


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2 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

 


I won't be able to purchase a newer 3000 series cards as they will be out of my price range. 
I am hopping that this GPU will last me atleast 5+ years of atleast 144fps. (I don't care much for super high ultra realistic graphics, I play comp so the most frames possible the better.) 

I am reluctant to go with an AMD GPU, I know a lot about NVIDIA products and very very little about AMD GPUs. I do have a freesync monitor though so hey. 

First of all we don't have any pricing info on the 3000 series of cards and just like a 279 USD 1660 ti offered 350 USD 1070 level performance the 3000 series should do the same too. For the same 500 USD you would get much better performance but again it's upto you if you are willing to wait or want the system right now.

Regarding the 2070 super it will definitely give you 144fps atleast at 1080p in all modern titles launched till date but 5 years it's difficult to say. 


System Specs:

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @3.40ghz (6C/12T)
  • Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-K
  • RAM: Corsair LPX 2*8GB DDR4 @3200mhz CL16
  • GPU: Zotac Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 (TU-104 variant) 6GB GDDR6
  • Case: Antec GX202
  • Storage
  • SSD: WD 240GB,
    HDD: Toshiba 1 TB @7200rpm
  • PSU: Corsair CX550 (2017 grey unit)
  • Display(s): BenQ 22 inches monitor, 1080p @ 60hz
  • Cooling: 3 Antec case fans 120 mm (2 blue LED front intake and 1 non LED rear exhaust)
  • Sound: Behringer UMC22 USB Audio interface, AudioTechnica ATH M20x studio headphones
  • Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
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13 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

 

 


Recommended 5700XT? 

if youre going with a 5700xt i'd go with the strix

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