3300x, 3100 or wait?!

[Aman7]

In my country (India) there is over $35 diff b/w both cpus... I am highly confused as to which i should buy. Seems like an easy answer! Just go for the 3300x, it has better ccx layout and faster clock speed, BUT I am planning to pair these with a 1650 Super and according to what videos and articles i could find, the performance difference will be low with this budget graphics card.
Another problem is that if I were to go with the 3300x ill have to shave off some money somehow to fit it in my budget. I would have to go with 8 gb ram instead of 16 or get a dirt cheap ssd which will be utter trash/ barely better than a hdd. I would like to know your thoughts about how much of a difference will both cpus make. 
i have no plans to upgrade anytime soon (at least 4-6 years) so keep that in mind!

as always there are ppl telling to not buy now and instead wait for 4000 series. I find these comments foolish but I wud like to ask that is there a probability of budget cpu from 4000 series to be launched this year... i wudnt expect that as they just released these both budget ryzen 3s.
 

[Haro]

If you absolutely need a PC now get the 3100 if you can't fit at least an SSD that is tlc and has dram chache

If you are planning on upgrading and getting an extra 8 gig stick go for the 3300x 

If you can wait and can build a PC later this year or the year after 

I recommend waiting

[TetraSky]

The 4000s series is expected to launch at the end of the year and it likely won't feature any cheaper SKU than what is currently available with the 3100/3300x.

 

If you can wait and you're satisfied with what you currently have, do wait until you no longer can, because there's always something better around the corner after all.

 

But if you really want to upgrade now, go for it. It's your money, you decide how to spend it.

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Aman7 said:

In my country (India) there is over $35 diff b/w both cpus... I am highly confused as to which i should buy. Seems like an easy answer! Just go for the 3300x, it has better ccx layout and faster clock speed, BUT I am planning to pair these with a 1650 Super and according to what videos and articles i could find, the performance difference will be low with this budget graphics card.
Another problem is that if I were to go with the 3300x ill have to shave off some money somehow to fit it in my budget. I would have to go with 8 gb ram instead of 16 or get a dirt cheap ssd which will be utter trash/ barely better than a hdd. I would like to know your thoughts about how much of a difference will both cpus make. 
i have no plans to upgrade anytime soon (at least 4-6 years) so keep that in mind!

as always there are ppl telling to not buy now and instead wait for 4000 series. I find these comments foolish but I wud like to ask that is there a probability of budget cpu from 4000 series to be launched this year... i wudnt expect that as they just released these both budget ryzen 3s.
 

Most of the focus will be on AMDs flagship released processor when 4000 series debuts. Generally lower end chips are released later.

 

The focus would be that 3000 and lower series chips will drop in prices giving you better choices, perhaps a 3600X will drop significantly enough in price you could purchase that instead of a 3100X. 

[Shiv78]

I'd go for a 3100, just make sure you get a decent mobo so you can upgrade down the line to a 4000 series or maybe even 5000 if it is supported.

[Aman7]

36 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

The 4000s series is expected to launch at the end of the year and it likely won't feature any cheaper SKU than what is currently available with the 3100/3300x.

 

If you can wait and you're satisfied with what you currently have, do wait until you no longer can, because there's always something better around the corner after all.

 

But if you really want to upgrade now, go for it. It's your money, you decide how to spend it.

well my current pc is more than 10 yrs old and i really cant wait now. I planned to upgrade in march.... had been waiting for intel 10th gen, the ryzen 3 new chips.... everytime its just wait... i think ill buy 3100 now, sigh

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Aman7 said:

well my current pc is more than 10 yrs old and i really cant wait now. I planned to upgrade in march.... had been waiting for intel 10th gen, the ryzen 3 new chips.... everytime its just wait... i think ill buy 3100 now, sigh

Can you tell us your budget (preferably in dollars )

[Aman7]

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Can you tell us your budget (preferably in dollars )

500-550 usd.
Its more like 600 but things are more expensive here, and pcpp doesnt include taxes, right?!
anyways here is my list

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$99.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$89.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$79.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin X2 OC Video Card
Case	Antec VSK10 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.19 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$109.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$489.12
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-30 13:07 EDT-0400

do note i already have an hdd. 

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Aman7 said:

500-550 usd.
Its more like 600 but things are more expensive here, and pcpp doesnt include taxes, right?!
anyways here is my list

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$99.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$89.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$79.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin X2 OC Video Card
Case	Antec VSK10 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.19 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$109.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$489.12
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-30 13:07 EDT-0400

do note i already have an hdd. 

For 500 bucks you can't really do much more 

If your willing on cheaping out on the ram and getting 8 gigs and then upgrading later that would be reasonable but it depends on your upgrade path and what your planning on doing with it later on 

[TetraSky]

3 minutes ago, Aman7 said:

500-550 usd.
Its more like 600 but things are more expensive here, and pcpp doesnt include taxes, right?!
anyways here is my list

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$99.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$89.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$79.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin X2 OC Video Card
Case	Antec VSK10 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.19 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$109.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$489.12
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-30 13:07 EDT-0400

do note i already have an hdd. 

It's a fine build.

[Aman7]

6 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

It's a fine build.

 

8 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

For 500 bucks you can't really do much more 

If your willing on cheaping out on the ram and getting 8 gigs and then upgrading later that would be reasonable but it depends on your upgrade path and what your planning on doing with it later on 

thx both of you 
ok, i made a list with custom pricing from my country. I didnt exactly calculate everything so it shud come out around 600-610, esp from offline stores. have a look

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$115.00
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$93.00
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$95.00
Storage	Crucial MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$50.00
Video Card	Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin X2 OC Video Card	$184.00
Case	Antec VSK10 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$42.00
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$55.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$634.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-30 13:18 EDT-0400

 

[Nena Trinity]

3300X if you game on it and do not wanna upgrade it, honestly worth it I rather sacrifice GPU by a little since that is faster to swap later.

[Aman7]

7 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

3300X if you game on it and do not wanna upgrade it, honestly worth it I rather sacrifice GPU by a little since that is faster to swap later.

like i said, I am NOT going to upgrade any time soon. That includes the gpu, ur response comes as a surprise, most ppl recommend better gpu. Anyways have a look at this vid:

(i am more than happy with that performance, but still wanted some thoughts and expert advice)
thanks for your reply

[Nena Trinity]

2 minutes ago, Aman7 said:

like i said, I am NOT going to upgrade any time soon. That includes the gpu, ur response comes as a surprise, most ppl recommend better gpu. Anyways have a look at this vid:

(i am more than happy with that performance, but still wanted some thoughts and expert advice)
thanks for your reply

My main issue with the 3100 is that its 4 cores are split in a 2+2 configuration vs the 4+0 in the 3300X... =/ (if upgrading both later then sure...)

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

My main issue with the 3100 is that its 4 cores are split in a 2+2 configuration vs the 4+0 in the 3300X... =/ (if upgrading both later then sure...)

Well honestly it's FCLK is fine and it's imc is pretty decent so that extra latency isn't that big of a problem

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Well honestly it's FCLK is fine and it's imc is pretty decent so that extra latency isn't that big of a problem

I dunno it just feels like a Q6600 with Ryzen cores... x-x

[Haro]

Just now, Nena360 said:

I dunno it just feels like a Q6600 with Ryzen cores... x-x

That's stretching it a bit

[Nena Trinity]

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That's stretching it a bit

No wait more like two dual-cores with a transelator next to them, which the Q6600 did not have!

[Teddy07]

go buy now. CPUs do not matter much in gaming as long as you got a half decent one. A new GPU series will improve your FPS way more