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Inherited Brother's PC possibly in need of an Upgrade

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

As the title suggests, I just "inherited" my brother's PC and since I would like to stream with it, I definitely think it needs some upgrades. Unfortunately my budget is not that high at the moment but what would you suggest I should do first with what I have at my disposal?

 

NOTE: On PC Part Picker I wasn't able to find my version of the GPU which is actually the 8GB model.

 

Budget (including currency): 500$

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Streaming - Escape From Tarkov, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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You want to stream? You can get an RTX 2060 super, Nvidia's Nvenc encoder is very good for streamers.

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Just to clarify, the build list there, you already have that PC?


AMD Ryzen 3 3200G / Sapphire R9 290X / 16gb (2x8) Kingston ValueRam @ 2666Mhz / Gigabyte A320M-S2H / Kingston A400 120GB M.2 SSD / WD Blue 2.5" 1TB HDD / Cooler Master MWE450 / Aerocool CS-100 / Dell P2210 1680x1050 @ 70Hz (OC)

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

Just to clarify, the build list there, you already have that PC?

Yes this is the PC I have. I just used the list for easy reading.

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@iKamo

 

🤔 I would only change the following for right now. The GPU you have is good enough for gaming so you can save your money for the new GPU's releasing this year and the next. The only reason why I'm suggesting the SSD is for the extra storage, since video games will swallow it whole. 

 

Motherboard: ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

 

Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

 


System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    AMD RX 470
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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@iKamo

 

Just to give you some assurances on the changes I suggested. You'll get a pretty good performance for a little while longer. I'd say you are good for at least the next year or two, maybe even longer, so I would just save your money on a GPU for now. 

 

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - RX 570 | Ryzen 5 3600: 

 


System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    AMD RX 470
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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You just need a GPU and PSU upgrade. 

Get something like a RX 5700xt for GPU.

Your CPU is still solid.

 

For the PSU, refer this list and get a unit from higher tiers.

 


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

You just need a GPU and PSU upgrade. 

Get something like a RX 5700xt for GPU.

Your CPU is still solid.

 

For the PSU, refer this list and get a unit from higher tiers.

 

I don't know about that, the R5 3600 beats the piss out of the R5 1600 and its cheaper. You'll see a significant jump in performance overall in the video below. I'd definitely get rid of that CPU. 

 

Benchmark: R5 3600 vs R5 1600

 

 


System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    AMD RX 470
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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1 hour ago, BlackManINC said:

I don't know about that, the R5 3600 beats the piss out of the R5 1600 and its cheaper. You'll see a significant jump in performance overall in the video below. I'd definitely get rid of that CPU. 

 

Benchmark: R5 3600 vs R5 1600

 

 

Okay, to tackle that, I would say that the GPU used in the above video is rtx 2080ti (Probably one of the fastest GPUs out there). Here there will always be a case of CPU bottleneck. 

 

Run those tests with a mid range gpu.

Look, the gap becomes negligible...

 


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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2 hours ago, BlackManINC said:

@iKamo

 

🤔 I would only change the following for right now. The GPU you have is good enough for gaming so you can save your money for the new GPU's releasing this year and the next. The only reason why I'm suggesting the SSD is for the extra storage, since video games will swallow it whole. 

 

Motherboard: ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

 

Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

 

Also, here you are just suggesting a CPU upgrade. In OPs case CPU was never the bottleneck. It was the GPU that was tr bottleneck.

R5 1600 + 5700xt easily wins over R5 3600 + RX570


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Also, here you are just suggesting a CPU upgrade. In OPs case CPU was never the bottleneck. It was the GPU that was tr bottleneck.

R5 1600 + 5700xt easily wins over R5 3600 + RX570

🤔 Hmmm, perhaps, I just think its a waste upgrading the GPU right now knowing the real upgrades are coming soon with RDNA 2. The RX 5700XT is just filler to hold people over at best, and not even a good one since people are still having issues with it. I would have gotten rid of my RX 470 a while ago if the 5700XT was really that great. 


System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    AMD RX 470
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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1 minute ago, BlackManINC said:

🤔 Hmmm, perhaps, I just think its a waste upgrading the GPU right now knowing the real upgrades are coming soon with RDNA 2. The RX 5700XT is just filler to hold people over at best, and not even a good one since people are still having issues with it. 

Dude, technology will keep on evolving. You cannot wait forever.

Who knows when the new GPUs will come in the ongoing pandemic.


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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Also

12 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Okay, to tackle that, I would say that the GPU used in the above video is rtx 2080ti (Probably one of the fastest GPUs out there). Here there will always be a case of CPU bottleneck. 

 

Run those tests with a mid range gpu.

Look, the gap becomes negligible...

 

 


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Dude, technology will keep on evolving. You cannot wait forever.

Who knows when the new GPUs will come in the ongoing pandemic.

Waiting a few more months to a year for a possibly 50%+ performance boost is totally worth the wait for me. An RX 5700XT is chicken feed in comparison to the performance boost expected from the new ones. If I can wait with my old RX 470, he can definitely wait for a meaningful improvement with an RX 570 for his hard earned money. 


System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    AMD RX 470
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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Honestly I'd just suggest a new PSU and a GPU upgrade for now. Getting an 80+ Bronze or Gold of decent quality and the best RTX card you can afford; i don't know italian markets well but hopefully you can get an RTX 2060 super, if not atleast an RTX 2060 KO hopefully. 

 

Then go about selling the old GPU&PSU... and save up some extra change for a Ryzen 5 3600 if you're still not super happy with your performance. Call it a day at that point.


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1 hour ago, BlackManINC said:

Waiting a few more months to a year for a possibly 50%+ performance boost is totally worth the wait for me. An RX 5700XT is chicken feed in comparison to the performance boost expected from the new ones. If I can wait with my old RX 470, he can definitely wait for a meaningful improvement with an RX 570 for his hard earned money. 

Honestly speaking, he can get the 5700xt as a placeholder, and can sell it when the ampere and new Navi cards are out. I don't think it will be out by the end of this year. Many Nvidia and and vendor companies have shut down their production because of the ongoing pandemic.


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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