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Posted · Original PosterOP

I can get a ips 1080p 144hz 1ms monitor for 208 pounds but for 240 pounds i can get a monitor with the same specs but with hdr 400, is it worth it.


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What are you using it for?


I am far from an expert in this so please correct me if I’m wrong.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, zeusthemoose said:

What are you using it for?

video editing and gaming


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So this is a question I ran into myself, and I would link the specific monitors you are looking at because each monitor is different. I have seen some HDR 400 monitors claim to support HDR 400, but then only have a peak brightness of 350nits....which is not gonna cut it, because SDR monitors are usually 300nits...from what I can tell.

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Acer Nitro VG271Pbmiipx (hdr) and asus VP249QGR


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Unless its really high-end monitor that meets the specification properly then probably not.


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11 minutes ago, School Appropriate said:

So this is a question I ran into myself, and I would link the specific monitors you are looking at because each monitor is different. I have seen some HDR 400 monitors claim to support HDR 400, but then only have a peak brightness of 350nits....which is not gonna cut it, because SDR monitors are usually 300nits...from what I can tell.

this is the brightness 

Brightness

400 cd/m²


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27 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

I can get a ips 1080p 144hz 1ms monitor for 208 pounds but for 240 pounds i can get a monitor with the same specs but with hdr 400, is it worth it.

Nope.

 

Only two monitors are worth buying right now: 4K IPS displays, or 1080p/1440p 120hz+ IPS displays. Any of the Pseudo-HDR monitors are not worth the extra cost, and the only good ones cost as much as a high end 60" TV.

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Just now, Kisai said:

Nope.

 

Only two monitors are worth buying right now: 4K IPS displays, or 1080p/1440p 120hz+ IPS displays. Any of the Pseudo-HDR monitors are not worth the extra cost, and the only good ones cost as much as a high end 60" TV.

both of them are opition one


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3 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

this is the brightness 

Brightness

400 cd/m²

Ah okay, well, if it's worth it would be subjective, the thing about HDR 400 is.... true HDR experience is HDR 1000, HDR 600 is like the minimum for a noticeable difference, HDR 400 may have a slightly better visuals, but probably not going to be worth it unless you are specifically looking for HDR 400 for a reason.

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Just now, School Appropriate said:

Ah okay, well, if it's worth it would be subjective, the thing about HDR 400 is.... true HDR experience is HDR 1000, HDR 600 is like the minimum for a noticeable difference, HDR 400 may have a slightly better visuals, but probably not going to be worth it unless you are specifically looking for HDR 400 for a reason.

Well is spending the extra 32 pounds worth it for hdr 400 over a normal display


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2 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

Well is spending the extra 32 pounds worth it for hdr 400 over a normal display

Probably not. Honestly I would not buy something advertised as HDR400 or HDR600. A HDR1000 is at least $1800USD.

 

As others have said, unless it's significantly brighter than the SDR, it's barely a HDR experience.

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3 minutes ago, School Appropriate said:

What's the brightness on the non HDR 400 one.

Brightness : 250 cd/㎡ (Typical) for the 208 pound one, 

400cd (typ) / 320cd (Min) for the 230 pound one,

hdr 400 one is 240


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8 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

Brightness : 250 cd/㎡ (Typical) for the 208 pound one, 

400cd (typ) / 320cd (Min) for the 230 pound one,

hdr 400 one is 240

man, for me I wouldn't consider any monitor below 300. So I think it would be worth it if the only other option is under 300 nits. 

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the 2 monitors im looking at are $283 and $296


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HDR 400 is a joke. Get the cheaper one.


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Just now, MadPistol said:

HDR 400 is a joke. Get the cheaper one.

it only 10 quid more


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Just now, Not Wills said:

 

it only 10 quid more

Hard to argue with that. Get the HDR one, then.


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It may depend on the panels used though, if doing video editing then do you need something with a higher sRGB percentage? (can display more actual colours accurately)

I'd look for reviews.


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HDR400 even the 600 or anything below HDR1000 without full array local dimming is not worth it (it just does not represent real HDR picture). Basically just choose the monitor you prefer ignoring the HDR part. Important to mention, the Acer is 27inch and some people do not like the picture of 1080p on that size (due to lower ppi) compared to 1080p on 24inch. Cheers

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3 minutes ago, Envit0 said:

HDR400 even the 600 or anything below HDR1000 without full array local dimming is not worth it (it just does not represent real HDR picture). Basically just choose the monitor you prefer ignoring the HDR part. Important to mention, the Acer is 27inch and some people do not like the picture of 1080p on that size (due to lower ppi) compared to 1080p on 24inch. Cheers

Once you experience HDR 1000 on an OLED or a TV with FALD, it's hard to go back. The difference in picture quality is staggering.


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Just now, MadPistol said:

Once you experience HDR 1000 on an OLED or a TV with FALD, it's hard to go back. The difference in picture quality is staggering.

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