F@H Web Client Dark Skin with PPD comparison by GPU / WU

[Kilrah]

1 hour ago, Favebook said:

even though it says "Stats are disabled to avoid extra API call strain on F@H systems when running in always on (no sleep) mode.
Stats are still recorded normally." I am still getting same API calls in same interval (1.5 seconds as recorded by F@H Advanced Client).

It means the requests to F@H's servers for point total count, not local requests to your client for status which don't matter.

[Favebook]

20 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

It means the requests to F@H's servers for point total count, not local requests to your client for status which don't matter.

Could be....

[LAR_Systems]

7 hours ago, Kilrah said:

Nice, 1.0.7 works great! Kinda looks like nothing is happening without the animated gif, but... PPD

 

Is there a way to force the extension to load for a remote machine?

 

I have a 2nd machine folding and typically have a window for the web control open for it as well on my main one (accessing by ip, http://192.168.0.31:7396/) but the extension doesn't load for that  

 

Accessing the other IP on the network is not possible as the Chrome extension security sandbox will not allow it.

There is a down the road goal of mine to build a version of the client that uses your user ID and API key to authenticate the client... then have it send the local machines info to my server and share it across all your open client browsers.

This requires a complete redesign of the F@H user interface making it more like the advanced client running in a browser, so not going there just yet.   Also not sure of the public interest in that (feel free poll) as it would mean your info propagating via my servers back to your systems in a "identifying" way vs the current anonymous way.

[LAR_Systems]

5 hours ago, Favebook said:

@LAR_Systems

Not sure how 1.0.7 looks for others, but I gotta ask a few questions.

Is it only me or is everyone seeing green line above image (was GIF previously), check the image:

Also, I got used to clicking "Enable No Sleep Mode" down below where it says "Extension Modes" but since it updated, when I click it, it just pops me a new tab which seems to have No Sleep Mode enabled (check upper right corner of your extension, it says: "Disable No Sleep Mode" which in addition to URL (chrome-extension://alpjkkbjnbkddolgnicglknicbgfahoe/fah_custom.html?nofade=true) indicates that it is working correctly) but the button below still says "Enable No Sleep Mode" as if it is disabled.

Not sure why it's rendering different for you, but the green would be the old status box showing for some reason... might be screen scaling or something else I can't replicate so currently patching the background out completely in the LTT version.

 

The no sleep mode thing is a bug... a new one... recoding that now to not refresh the screen on state change and just change the state directly in the same browser to remove all weird navigation issues caused by the base clients use of frames etc.

 

[LAR_Systems]

39 minutes ago, Favebook said:

Could be....

 

39 minutes ago, Favebook said:

  59 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

It means the requests to F@H's servers for point total count, not local requests to your client for status which don't matter.

 

@Kilrah has it spot on.

The client when in no sleep mode does not communicate with the external F@H server APIs on their website as they are not expecting the client to be making that call to their systems all day and night for each user.

The calls you're seeing every few seconds is the local client call to the service running on your folding machines which is just how the F@H client works to get the current running GPUs and their PPD production values.

[Kilrah]

39 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

Accessing the other IP on the network is not possible as the Chrome extension security sandbox will not allow it.

I thought the page was normally loaded from the client, then cosmetically altered locally?

 

[Favebook]

57 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

I thought the page was normally loaded from the client, then cosmetically altered locally?

 

It was in one of previous versions AFAIK, but it changed now. It pops a new tab every time (including when you change sleep mode setting).

[LAR_Systems]

3 hours ago, Kilrah said:

I thought the page was normally loaded from the client, then cosmetically altered locally?

 

Browser extensions run in a JS/HTML sandbox and have to pre-define the IP / domains that they are allow to work on in the permissions.

 

In the case of this one it runs on client.foldingathome.org and localhost http://127.0.0.1   your other local network IP does not match the pattern for authorized URLs so the extension does not load.

The first domain is to know when most people have opened the web client address, apply styles and JS.

The second is to communicate with the local F@H iframe and their API system that is running the F@H service, authenticate with it like the default web client does on the localhost IP http://127.0.0.1.

What you're trying to do is open another one over the network which is not a pre-definable domain/ip permission case for the extension, so you get whatever defaults load from the local F@H service on that box.

I'm currently in the process of trying to build the extension for Firefox, they adhere to even sticker rules which does not allow HTTP access to localhost 127.0.0.1 or other local network IPs (only HTTPS) which is what the F@H local service runs on and is currently used by the chrome version.   

 

So the rebuild will be more JQuery to manipulate the client in place, scrape information from the GUI hence the longer term plan for my own separate cloud API communication network that would could share a users information it across different systems running their client and user ID as direct access across private LAN / WAN does not work for most cases and at all cross browser.

The other benefit of the cloud based approach is that it could allow remote (out of home, mobile etc) monitoring of systems and possibly even sending commands like fold / stop etc. to remote boxes.

 

[Kilrah]

33 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

scrape information from the GUI

Yeah that's what I thought you were already doing.

 

33 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

Browser extensions run in a JS/HTML sandbox and have to pre-define the IP / domains that they are allow to work on in the permissions.

But an extension can request "any site", no? And there seems to be a way to manually add some depending on how the extension declared what it wanted since the Chrome help pages explains how to add / remove site permissions:

 

https://support.google.com/chrome_webstore/answer/2664769?hl=en

Quote

Add or remove access to a specific site

1. On your computer, open Chrome .
2. At the top right, click More   More tools  Extensions.
3. On the extension, click Details.
4. Under “Permissions,” add or remove a site:
   • Add: To the right of “Allowed sites,” click Add.
   • If you don’t see this option, change “Allow this extension to read and change all your data on websites you visit” to On specific sites.
   • Remove: To the right of the site, tap More  Remove.

Your extension however does not allow changing that. Maybe it could be changed to allow users to add some?

 

 

[LAR_Systems]

39 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Yeah that's what I thought you were already doing.

 

But an extension can request "any site", no? And there seems to be a way to manually add some depending on how the extension declared what it wanted since the Chrome help pages explains how to add / remove site permissions:

 

https://support.google.com/chrome_webstore/answer/2664769?hl=en

Your extension however does not allow changing that. Maybe it could be changed to allow users to add some?

 

 

You have to have a reason to request permissions when publishing with Google.  Google has rejected any site access for this plugin as it's use is singular for the folding at home client, also again what you're trying to do is not a general use case for the client and users and would open a security issue that is real or implied as most people do not want a browser extension installed that has access to every site including local IPs and port on their network that JavaScript can interface with.

What you're looking to do is why chrome supports running unverified or private extensions that can do weird and wonderful non best practice things directly from developer mode that you could make in your own plugin that does not need Google review.   

I'm trying to make a plug-in that plays by the rules so that users have confidence that the extension is only doing what they expect it to, on the computer they are running it on directly and it's not probing all over their network while supporting the 99.9% use case of a general user.

 

[Kilrah]

OK, makes sense. 

 

Yeah, I've just been playing with editing the extension and loading it in dev mode and can access the remote with no issue. However having it for both would need quite some work since a lot is hardcoded to 127.0.0.1. Might have another look in the future.

 

[GOTSpectrum]

I just want to add that I for the first time in my life I prefer using the web interface other advanced client for monitoring the local machine.

 

that, is a big praise for what you have created here!

[Favebook]

18 hours ago, Favebook said:

Is it only me or is everyone seeing green line above image (was GIF previously)

Green line seems to only be visible on Ultra-wide monitors and not on normal ones. Acer Predator X34 has upper green line and I forgot which monitor is it but I know that it is curved and considered Ultra-wide and it has left and upper green line.

 

Benq Zowie XL2546 does not have any green lines (it's on same system as Acer Predator X34) and some random old monitor 1080p does not have any green lines

[LAR_Systems]

11 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I just want to add that I for the first time in my life I prefer using the web interface other advanced client for monitoring the local machine.

 

that, is a big praise for what you have created here!

Thanks, I really do appreciate that.

I feel like it's cruel for people to have to look at default one... it's brutal.

[Scarfy]

@LAR_Systems  Is it ok to use the extension on a gcp server with a Tesla V100 ? Will it gather accurate data ?

[LAR_Systems]

4 minutes ago, Scarfy said:

@LAR_Systems  Is it ok to use the extension on a gcp server with a Tesla V100 ? Will it gather accurate data ?

It should and I speak for the community when I say it would be amazing to see data for these GPUs across different work units to compare with consumer cards most of us are running.

Also don't forget to put it in "No sleep" mode so it keeps collecting as long as you leave the session open on the server.

[Scarfy]

9 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

It should and I speak for the community when I say it would be amazing to see data for these GPUs across different work units to compare with consumer cards most of us are running.

Also don't forget to put it in "No sleep" mode so it keeps collecting as long as you leave the session open on the server.

Great , i will try to keep the machine active for the duration of the event, that should give enough WU data.

 

 

[LAR_Systems]

47 minutes ago, Scarfy said:

Great , i will try to keep the machine active for the duration of the event, that should give enough WU data.

 

 

That's amazing, really appreciate it!

[LAR_Systems]

48 minutes ago, Scarfy said:

Great , i will try to keep the machine active for the duration of the event, that should give enough WU data.

 

 

Annnnnnd the Tesla has taken number 1 on the GPU ranks lol!
https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall
 

[GOTSpectrum]

Hey man, little thing right here, but the percentage is almost unreadable at the start of the WU

 

[LAR_Systems]

The latest version v1.0.8 has been published to the extension store.

 

This hopefully addresses the issue with new window spawning on entering no sleep and the green line on wide monitors.

 

After looking for alternatives a CSS only method has been used to "animate" the folding icon indicator to help newer folders see at a glance if their machines is running (also important for users with slower cards that the % number does not move much).   The new method has been tested to use 0% to 1% of the 3D mode when running making it hard to distinguish from just normal OS / Browser overhead at idle.

For those of us that want every single point per day I have also added a "Enable/Disable Animations" toggle to the footer modes list.   This will remove the CSS toggle and just display a static graphic.   In the future this will likely become a "low power mode" If I find other parts of the default client that can be trimmed down to lower system overhead while folding.

 

Have a look, and please let me know if your issue cases are resolved with the build. 

 

 

RELEASE NOTES:

Version 1.0.8 – Beta Updates & Patches
---------------------------------------------

Update – LTT Skin return of optimized animated GIFs alternative based on CSS toggles to reduce browser 3D rendering overhead allocating more GPU resources for folding.

Update - LTT Skin option to disable animation in extension modes

Update - No sleep mode no longer forces page reload, updates current window in place.

Fix - Green border around folding icon / animation, CSS values changes to suppress, should fix most instances of users with screen scaling.

 

Fixes bugs reported by: @GOTSpectrum @Kilrah @Favebook

[Kilrah]

Looks perfect to me. For me the animation has 0 impact on resources use now. 

[marknd59]

@LAR_Systems Tried it and everything seems to be working just fine. Also the green lines I was getting on the GIF seem to have gone away.

[Favebook]

Version 1.0.8 looks GREAT! 

No more green lines (on any monitor);

I like gif with "disable animation" button;

But I have a question/complain about no sleep mode now.

 

When I go to default link (https://client.foldingathome.org/) it instantly shows everything and no pop-up tabs anymore (quite nice), however, when I enable or disable no sleep mode, URL doesn't change (it doesn't show url as extension anymore and there is no "?nofade=true" on the end if sleep mode is enabled) like it used to (not a big problem, but I'd at least like a 0.5 - 1 sec pop-up to tell me it actually changed. I can see that USER STATS DISPLAY disappears when I enable it, but I feel like that is not enough as I wasn't really sure if no sleep mode even worked until I left it for an hour or two to actually see if it works.

 

This is just my opinion and feel free to ignore it as I like 1.0.8 a lot anyway.

[LAR_Systems]

40 minutes ago, Favebook said:

Version 1.0.8 looks GREAT! 

No more green lines (on any monitor);

I like gif with "disable animation" button;

But I have a question/complain about no sleep mode now.

 

When I go to default link (https://client.foldingathome.org/) it instantly shows everything and no pop-up tabs anymore (quite nice), however, when I enable or disable no sleep mode, URL doesn't change (it doesn't show url as extension anymore and there is no "?nofade=true" on the end if sleep mode is enabled) like it used to (not a big problem, but I'd at least like a 0.5 - 1 sec pop-up to tell me it actually changed. I can see that USER STATS DISPLAY disappears when I enable it, but I feel like that is not enough as I wasn't really sure if no sleep mode even worked until I left it for an hour or two to actually see if it works.

 

This is just my opinion and feel free to ignore it as I like 1.0.8 a lot anyway.

When you click on no sleep mode in the footer the stats should go away then display the message below to let you know you are in no sleep mode is this not showing up?   

 

Wanted to make it a seamless toggle so you quickly disable no sleep, take a peek at your stats and click the link again to re-enable without the page loads etc.