F@H Web Client Dark Skin with PPD comparison by GPU / WU

[LAR_Systems]

6 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

@LAR_Systems

 

Question for you, when you click on help you get this menu, I was wondering... could you put the LTT forum in there too? I understand if not, just think it would be cool to be able to try to poach as many folder help as many people get folding as we can. 

While with the current implementation of the extension in chrome that would be possible,  I'm reluctant to mod some of the more base F@H menus and functionality as it makes my build more and more different from theirs which they may not be thrilled about.

I am however working on the Firefox version and trying to find some common ground in terms of features and approaches to the mods that work for both browsers implementation.  End goal that aligns with what you're looking for is to additional resources while not modifying F@Hs base features.

Thoughts there are adding a new folder setup wizard that makes sure that you enter a name, get a key, enter it, join a team (defaulting to LTT, but they can enter other stuff) know how and where to check stats, and what is / how to setup folding resources that would link out to LTT videos and the forum... which cards to buy right now and why linking out to the PPD DB.   In addition to all that mod in a notification window that can announce when we got an event etc.  Cause I have seen plenty of posts "I fold for LTT but missed the event sign up"

So not right now... but soonish something better!?

 

[GOTSpectrum]

3 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

So not right now... but soonish something better!?

 

Sounds good!

 

Also, loving that diamond, looks good on you!

[LAR_Systems]

3 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Sounds good!

 

Also, loving that diamond, looks good on you!

Thanks, pretty proud to be rocking that, now I just need to finish cleaning / swapping gear around for a summer running config to keep going..... AAAANNNNDDD you announced an event...

 

[GOTSpectrum]

6 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

AAAANNNNDDD you announced an event...

That I did! 

[cbigfoot]

Woot More new Data points too bad they chunk the 5600 5600M and 5700 and 5700xt in to the same chunk lolol

 

[cbigfoot]

@LAR_Systems out of curiosity are you planning on enabling CPU compairisons as well? i know that will be more difficult though or maybee impossible due to some people using all cores some breaking it to multiple ways etc...just curious...may not be possible now that i think about it...unless you devide it and do a Per core in use basis...etc.

[LAR_Systems]

5 hours ago, cbigfoot said:

@LAR_Systems out of curiosity are you planning on enabling CPU compairisons as well? i know that will be more difficult though or maybee impossible due to some people using all cores some breaking it to multiple ways etc...just curious...may not be possible now that i think about it...unless you devide it and do a Per core in use basis...etc.

I'm investigating that.   In chrome there are some APIs open to extensions to get the real CPU make / model as F@H client only identifies it as "CPU" and then I can get the max threads and figure out how many F@H is using.

The unknown that needs lots of testing is if there is an accurate way to get a per thread PPD score that can be recorded as some people use all threads (default max threads minus one for system overhead), some, one etc.  so it's not as easy to just say model and PPD like with GPUs.

Only want to track it and provide it to you guys if it provides a real performance insight, hopefully I will know one way or the other sooner than later.

[cbigfoot]

15 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

I'm investigating that.   In chrome there are some APIs open to extensions to get the real CPU make / model as F@H client only identifies it as "CPU" and then I can get the max threads and figure out how many F@H is using.

The unknown that needs lots of testing is if there is an accurate way to get a per thread PPD score that can be recorded as some people use all threads (default max threads minus one for system overhead), some, one etc.  so it's not as easy to just say model and PPD like with GPUs.

Only want to track it and provide it to you guys if it provides a real performance insight, hopefully I will know one way or the other sooner than later.

thats what i was thinking while typing but figured the only stupid question is the one not asked!!!

[cbigfoot]

Pulled the integrated graphics from folding due to it slowing down the CPU due to thermal limitations Buy more points than it was giving lol. Go 15 threads lol. 

[LAR_Systems]

15 hours ago, cbigfoot said:

Pulled the integrated graphics from folding due to it slowing down the CPU due to thermal limitations Buy more points than it was giving lol. Go 15 threads lol. 

Yeah I was playing with that during the last event, you need monster cooling and in the end really need to make a choice if you're also folding with dedicated GPUs on the system.

[Cabanaj]

Hmm did we break it?

Since I have been folding nothing but p 14201 the last 48 hours, I wanted to see some stats, and got this page.

[Kilrah]

Looks OK here

[marknd59]

@LAR_Systems a couple of quick questions.

 

Do you perfer us to keep the Web Control page open in "no sleep mode" all the time or just every now and then ? I personally don't mind keeping and window open 24/7 (which I have been doing) if that is helpful.

Would it be possible to display the number of samples in the GPU PPD DB for each card and the number of samples for each project for the individual cards ? I think that would be useful information as the PPD data is more relevant when you know the sample size.
 

[LAR_Systems]

11 hours ago, Cabanaj said:

Hmm did we break it?

Since I have been folding nothing but p 14201 the last 48 hours, I wanted to see some stats, and got this page.

I will look in to the logs, it's running now and I did not notice an outage, but that does not mean there was not one.

[LAR_Systems]

5 hours ago, marknd59 said:

@LAR_Systems a couple of quick questions.

 

Do you perfer us to keep the Web Control page open in "no sleep mode" all the time or just every now and then ? I personally don't mind keeping and window open 24/7 (which I have been doing) if that is helpful.

Would it be possible to display the number of samples in the GPU PPD DB for each card and the number of samples for each project for the individual cards ? I think that would be useful information as the PPD data is more relevant when you know the sample size.
 

The choice is really up to you, but yes it's better for the DB cause we get more samples if you leave it running.   I'm working on a scaling backend to the API so I can slow down the number of WU the clients submit even in no sleep if the server is burdened and that will come in a later update.

As for the stats, been waiting to get a critical mass of work units in the DB for a variety of cards to add addition features like you're describing.  The DB is only about 2 weeks old and is growing pretty quickly... so soon I should be able to provide scientifically relevant data based on the samples collected beyond the average.  I'm hoping the upcoming event sees a bump in use and data variety.

This would include the number of WU samples for the GPU / Project and recently added if the core OS is Linux or Windows as their performance varies based on OS overhead.

Also working on the addition of percentile scores for your performance compared to the DB samples as of course some cards in the same model will vary greatly based on a number of hardware and software factors so showing where your card slots in to the spectrum of that model of card is useful information as well.

Does not matter if there are silicon lottery GPUs that bring the max PPD score of a card up... if 80% of users will never come close to it... etc.

 

[Cabanaj]

3 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

I will look in to the logs, it's running now and I did not notice an outage, but that does not mean there was not one.

Thanks. I will admit I have an addiction to stats.

[Kilrah]

An idea, can you maybe hijack the spinny wheel on the page and make it static instead? That thing wastes about 2% GPU when it's visible in Chrome on a 2080S 

[LAR_Systems]

10 hours ago, Kilrah said:

An idea, can you maybe hijack the spinny wheel on the page and make it static instead? That thing wastes about 2% GPU when it's visible in Chrome on a 2080S 

Did have the idea to have a spinning Linus head at one point, but if our FPS is like everything Linus touches... it would drop hard.

[LAR_Systems]

Latest build of the web client v1.0.5 has hit the chrome extension store, you can force update or you should get it delivered soon.

 

 

Thanks for all the helpful feedback and bug reporting, wanted to get some of the new stats info and LTT skin elements in before the event.

Cheers,

 

RELEASE NOTES:

Version 1.0.5 – Beta Updates & Patches
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Update – LTT Skin style and image updates (the folding shirt lives on)

Update – Add the number of work unit samples for your GPU and current WU that are being used to calculate the performance score.

Update – Add the overall rank of your GPU compared to all others in the database

Fix – Change logic for displaying GPU performance to hides cases where you see double notifications on new GPU/WU combinations added in real-time.

 

[GOTSpectrum]

Can you change the colour of the white circles to a great, they really bright in comparison

 

EDIT: That looks bloody great made, nice job 

[LAR_Systems]

2 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Can you change the colour of the white circles to a great, they really bright in comparison

 

EDIT: That looks bloody great made, nice job 

 

Can't argue with that request, it will look like this as soon as v1.0.6 passes Google review.

 

[marknd59]

I wonder whos cards will get rank #1 for Radeon RX 470/480/570/580/590

[Kilrah]

I still have missing stats occasionally. 

Also while the folding t-shirt logo looks awesome displaying it now uses 5% GPU

 

[GOTSpectrum]

42 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

I still have missing stats occasionally. 

Also while the folding t-shirt logo looks awesome displaying it now uses 5% GPU

 

An option for static folding icon could be helpful, not sure how easy that is to implement though

[TVwazhere]

11 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

Update – Add the overall rank of your GPU compared to all others in the database

Time to OC the 1070ti's!!!!

 

Competition within competition!