Ryzen 3 3300X or Ryzen 5 3500 for gaming upto 5 years

[TylerDurden!]

5 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

can i go with 3100?

just get the 3300x, that way you will have no regrets

[Jurrunio]

32 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

I truly, want to buy 4th gen directly with new mobo in August or whenever it comes.

no one guaranteed any worthy gains over 3rd gen, especially if you dont get a fast GPU like the 2060S at least (otherwise you'll still be GPU bottlenecked)

[maharshi1234]

10 minutes ago, TylerDurden! said:

just get the 3300x, that way you will have no regrets

My GPU is rx 570. it wont run more than 50-60 fps. so even if i buy ryzen 3 1600, it will not use more than 60%. 

If 3300x is worth after 2 years, then i will buy. Is it good?

[maharshi1234]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

no one guaranteed any worthy gains over 3rd gen, especially if you dont get a fast GPU like the 2060S at least (otherwise you'll still be GPU bottlenecked)

Oh. So can i buy 3100?

My GPU is rx 570. it is only good for 60fps. my monitor is only 75 hz too. 

I want the cheapest as possible. 

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

Oh. So can i buy 3100?

My GPU is rx 570. it is only good for 60fps. my monitor is only 75 hz too. 

I want the cheapest as possible. 

No. 3100 is way behind 3300x for gaming and wont be relevant nearly as long. If anything the 3100's gaming performance is reminiscent of the 2600/1600AF, and those are cheaper.

[maharshi1234]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

No. 3100 is way behind 3300x for gaming and wont be relevant nearly as long. If anything the 3100's gaming performance is reminiscent of the 2600/1600AF, and those are cheaper.

i checked bootleneck calculator for 3300X  and RX 570. My GPU will be 100% usage and CPU only 30% usage. CPU is faster and not utilising much. So i can go for cheaper one??

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

i checked bootleneck calculator for 3300X  and RX 570. My GPU will be 100% usage and CPU only 30% usage. CPU is faster and not utilising much. So i can go for cheaper one??

So you never upgrade GPU?

[maharshi1234]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

So you never upgrade GPU?

I am having 1080p 60Hz. If i wanted to upgrade, i will directly go to 1440p 144hz monitor. So i am thinking that i have to upgrade the CPU and GPU too for that, so i think 3300x wont support 1440p 144hz. I am new please help.

[SavageNeo]

Just now, maharshi1234 said:

I am having 1080p 60Hz. If i wanted to upgrade, i will directly go to 1440p 144hz monitor. So i am thinking that i have to upgrade the CPU and GPU too for that, so i think 3300x wont support 1440p 144hz. I am new please help.

3300x will support 1440p 144hz very well with help of decent gpu like rx 5700.

3300x is much better than 3100 and it is 10 dollars more expensive so i would get that. and bottleneck calculators are a joke since they do not know what res/settings/hz/gmes you use the pc for

[maharshi1234]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

So you never upgrade GPU?

If 3300x is good for 1440p more than 100fps, i can upgrade only GPU and now i will buy 3300x.

[maharshi1234]

So i will tell what i am going to buy please confirm it.

A320M board with BIOS update.

3300x

RX 570 i have will upgrade to new in future.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

If 3300x is good for 1440p more than 100fps, i can upgrade only GPU and now i will buy 3300x.

more resolution doesnt affect the CPU much if at all, only the GPU, but in many games 3100 cannot hit 100fps but 3300x can.

 

1 minute ago, maharshi1234 said:

So i will tell what i am going to buy please confirm it.

A320M board with BIOS update.

3300x

RX 570 i have will upgrade to new in future.

Yep

 

also check the PSU

[maharshi1234]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

also check the PSU

I have corsair CX 450. 

[maharshi1234]

Thank you so much everyone for helping me. I understood about this now.

[Statik]

2 hours ago, maharshi1234 said:

If it is only for 3 years, can i go with 3100? Later i will buy new mobo and 4th or 5th gen after 3 years. 

There's no "future proofing" when it comes to building PCs. As in no one can really tell you "buy this and it will last until 20__". The more competition between manufacturers, the more "futuristic" there releases will be, and right now AMD is bringing the heat with their GPU and CPU products, so it's likely NVIDIA/Intel will be trying to bring the heat to compete as well. The 3100 is a $100 USD chip, and while its a wicked bang for your buck I wouldn't expect it to last you multiple years.

 

If I had to guess it'd be solid for a few years at light 1080p gaming, but I wouldn't expect anything crazy, and in a few years it will likely start to struggle.

[Fasauceome]

Some misconceptions in this thread should get cleared up.

 

Do not get an A320 motherboard, B450 motherboards are compatible with 4000 series ryzen. Your fist choice is better.

 

The bottleneck calculator is fairly useless, ignore it.

 

The Ryzen 5 3500 has 6 cores, but lacks SMT, so it's 6 cores 6 threads. The 3300X, however, has 4 cores 8 threads because it does have SMT. They are very close in multithreaded performance (3500 comes out a little ahead) but the single thread speeds of the 3300X are a little better. Still, I think choosing the cheaper CPU is a smart pick. 

[maharshi1234]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Some misconceptions in this thread should get cleared up.

 

Do not get an A320 motherboard, B450 motherboards are compatible with 4000 series ryzen. Your fist choice is better.

 

The bottleneck calculator is fairly useless, ignore it.

 

The Ryzen 5 3500 has 6 cores, but lacks SMT, so it's 6 cores 6 threads. The 3300X, however, has 4 cores 8 threads because it does have SMT. They are very close in multithreaded performance (3500 comes out a little ahead) but the single thread speeds of the 3300X are a little better. Still, I think choosing the cheaper CPU is a smart pick. 

In this case, i have to wait for 6 months to save up some money and directly buy 4th gen build with B450 or 3rd gen with B450. Except that i can only use rx 570 for 1 or 2 years until i get enough money to get high tier GPU and 1440p monitor.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, maharshi1234 said:

In this case, i have to wait for 6 months to save up some money and directly buy 4th gen build with B450 or 3rd gen with B450. Except that i can only use rx 570 for 1 or 2 years until i get enough money to get high tier GPU and 1440p monitor.

If you are saving to get a motherboard and CPU at a later date, you might be interested in a B550 board instead. They're meant to hit the market in maybe a month or so, and they'll have some fancy features like PCIe 4.0. definitely have a look at pricing when they become available, you could spot a bargain.

[maharshi1234]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

The Ryzen 5 3500 has 6 cores, but lacks SMT, so it's 6 cores 6 threads. The 3300X, however, has 4 cores 8 threads because it does have SMT. They are very close in multithreaded performance (3500 comes out a little ahead) but the single thread speeds of the 3300X are a little better. Still, I think choosing the cheaper CPU is a smart pick. 

Suppose if i buy 3300x and buy GPU after 2 years, is 3300x still good for AAA games in 2022? Or i have to buy new processor?

 

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

If you are saving to get a motherboard and CPU at a later date, you might be interested in a B550 board instead. They're meant to hit the market in maybe a month or so, and they'll have some fancy features like PCIe 4.0. definitely have a look at pricing when they become available, you could spot a bargain.

Yes i am ready to buy B550 board if it is future proof.

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

In this case, i have to wait for 6 months to save up some money and directly buy 4th gen build with B450 or 3rd gen with B450. Except that i can only use rx 570 for 1 or 2 years until i get enough money to get high tier GPU and 1440p monitor.

oh and one thing I forgot, high frequency memory helps with performance at higher frame rates but A320 boards (and Gigabyte boards with B350 and B450 chipset) dont go past 3200MHz, they get touchy if not outright unstable beyond that. there are 3600MHz CL18 or 19 kits that are only a touch more expensive than 3200MHz CL16 ones.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, maharshi1234 said:

Suppose if i buy 3300x and buy GPU after 2 years, is 3300x still good for AAA games in 2022? Or i have to buy new processor?

I don't know, that's in the future and we have yet to see.

 

Just now, maharshi1234 said:

Yes i am ready to buy B550 board if it is future proof.

It would have the same upgrade path as B450 motherboards (presumably) so the difference would be some small things that might appeal to you, worth doing some comparing when the motherboards reach the market.

[maharshi1234]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

I don't know, that's in the future and we have yet to see.

 

It would have the same upgrade path as B450 motherboards (presumably) so the difference would be some small things that might appeal to you, worth doing some comparing when the motherboards reach the market.

Thank You. i decided to wait until 4th gen arrives in market with new boards.

Until then, i will continue to play older games in my i3-7100 dual core with RX 570 this year.

 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, maharshi1234 said:

Until then, i will continue to play older games in my i3-7100 dual core with RX 570 this year.

Scan eBay and such for a used i5-6600. If you're lucky, you can get one for $80 which is a good deal for a small upgrade. 

[maharshi1234]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Scan eBay and such for a used i5-6600. If you're lucky, you can get one for $80 which is a good deal for a small upgrade. 

I am still searching. Will get it soon. Ebay not in my country