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I9-10900K vs Ryzen 9 3950X for Professional Esports

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Posted · Original PosterOP

What’s up guys,

Just a doubt... I’m building a new gaming rig with the purpose of professional esports (Fortnite, Apex Legends and CSGO)... I am confused between the CPUs though... Should I go with the 10900K or the 3950X? Or is it worthwhile waiting for the AMD 4000 CPUs? Also for my GPU I’m going with an Asus Rog Strix 2080Ti OC, so should I wait for RTX 3000 series GPU lineup or is this ok right now?

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On 5/24/2020 at 1:44 AM, Harit Paurana said:

What’s up guys,

Just a doubt... I’m building a new gaming rig with the purpose of professional esports (Fortnite, Apex Legends and CSGO)... I am confused between the CPUs though... Should I go with the 10900K or the 3950X? Or is it worthwhile waiting for the AMD 4000 CPUs? Also for my GPU I’m going with an Asus Rog Strix 2080Ti OC, so should I wait for RTX 3000 series GPU lineup or is this ok right now?

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second, you dont need either for esports, anything like a 3700x or 3800x will suit you, or a i7 9700k. but if you really want the top of the line diminishing returns, either works. i would recommend 3950x because if i remember right its a little cheaper.

 

2080ti is also overkill, if yure playing on 1440p or 1080 p you only reaally really need a 2080 super, plus, 3000 series arent worth it in ur case as pretty much all competetive esports games are made to not need intensive graphics and certainly not RTX.

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stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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So to start I want to say for gaming and to get more FPS on your games I believe the Intel chip is better since the i9-9900k was better at FPS performance against the 3950x even if it’s by a little. With that out of the way the games you have listed are not hard to run titles. You also have to know what resolution you are planning on playing on 1080p 1440p or 4K. But if you are truly going for esports then you will most likely get a 1080p Monitor because you will be getting the most FPS out of that. Second thing you have to think about is how much FPS can your monitor actually run most esports player son pc now run 240hrz monitors. Third and final thing are you playing on streaming if so it would be recommend to build 2 systems instead of one really expensive system so the when your streaming u don’t loose performance on your game to do that u would also need a capture card like an elgato. Csgo doesn’t need much to run same with fortnite I’m not quite sure about apex legends but if you want the most FPS out of you pc get the i10 and a 2080ti with good ram I believe 3600 speed can increase ur FPS even if it’s by a bit. To end this most esports played usually only play one game at a time so see the game you will only play and see you what your monitor can handle and get the specs for that also when building a pc never wait for new things because new parts always keep coming out every couple of months 

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i5-10600k is more than enough if you really want that max FPS.


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1. I don’t think a lot of people are professionals in three different games at once. 
2. if this is pure gaming, then the i9-10900k will win. keep in mind you’ll need a large psu and a large AIO to tame it. 
3. if you plan on streaming, a 3950x would be better. 
4. I’m pretty sure that a 360hz monitor is coming soon 


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Just watch Gamer Nexus review of the 10900k.

 

If all you want is gaming performance and you are willing to pay, that is currently the best performing CPU in games.

 

Is it worth it? Not for the vast majority of us, but if your use case is different then go for it.


As an aside, the 3950x performs worse than the 3900x in most games, the additional core count of the 3950x doesn't help in most games, but due to the higher core count the clock speed is a little lower and that impacts on performance in games.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 hours ago, ketchupspill said:

first, wrong forum, go to CPUs and mobos

 

second, you dont need either for esports, anything like a 3700x or 3800x will suit you, or a i7 9700k. but if you really want the top of the line diminishing returns, either works. i would recommend 3950x because if i remember right its a little cheaper.

 

2080ti is also overkill, if yure playing on 1440p or 1080 p you only reaally really need a 2080 super, plus, 3000 series arent worth it in ur case as pretty much all competetive esports games are made to not need intensive graphics and certainly not RTX.

Will I lose fps with the 3950X though ?

 

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5 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

Will I lose fps with the 3950X though ?

 

In the other thread you made, you said you would be streaming as well, which would make the 3950x the better choice. 


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5 minutes ago, gloop said:

In the other thread you made, you said you would be streaming as well, which would make the 3950x the better choice. 

Yeah I understand that, but will get 240fps lock while gaming with and without streaming alike?

 

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Just now, Harit Paurana said:

Yeah I understand that, but will get 240fps lock while gaming with and without streaming alike?

 

If at 1080p low, then yes. 


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4 hours ago, Harit Paurana said:

Will I lose fps with the 3950X though ?

 

not by much, definitely not enough to impact you, and its much better for streaming as well.


stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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On 5/24/2020 at 9:41 AM, xAcid9 said:

i5-10600k is more than enough if you really want that max FPS.

Tjeez, did you even read his question? If he plays games professionally he will also stream. That means he needs a proper CPU with enough threads to do both. It's how gamers make money. i9900k  or it's cheaper and newr 10900k are great for this. Ryzen 3900x aswell.

 

Waiting for the 4000 series wont help because thats what, 6 months away? And they will first launch mobile if I remember correctly...

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3 hours ago, NiQuil said:

Tjeez, did you even read his question? If he plays games professionally he will also stream. That means he needs a proper CPU with enough threads to do both. It's how gamers make money. i9900k  or it's cheaper and newr 10900k are great for this. Ryzen 3900x aswell.

1. Zero mention about streaming in his original post.

2. Streaming with i5-10600k will give more FPS compare to 3900x still.

3. He can use 2080 Ti NVENC for streaming which is probably the best option. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 5/29/2020 at 3:17 AM, NiQuil said:

Tjeez, did you even read his question? If he plays games professionally he will also stream. That means he needs a proper CPU with enough threads to do both. It's how gamers make money. i9900k  or it's cheaper and newr 10900k are great for this. Ryzen 3900x aswell.

 

Waiting for the 4000 series wont help because thats what, 6 months away? And they will first launch mobile if I remember correctly...

Thanks a lot dude... I've decided to go with the 10900K.... Really appreciate your help :)

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On 5/28/2020 at 10:47 PM, NiQuil said:

i9900k

why would you buy this? 10th gen is out and it is the same price.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, gloop said:

why would you buy this? 10th gen is out and it is the same price.

dude I said i'm going with the 10900K

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Just now, Harit Paurana said:

dude I said i'm going with the 10900K

I wasn't talking to you, it was just asking the other persons thought process on that recommendation. 


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On 5/24/2020 at 7:44 AM, Harit Paurana said:

What’s up guys,

Just a doubt... I’m building a new gaming rig with the purpose of professional esports (Fortnite, Apex Legends and CSGO)... I am confused between the CPUs though... Should I go with the 10900K or the 3950X? Or is it worthwhile waiting for the AMD 4000 CPUs? Also for my GPU I’m going with an Asus Rog Strix 2080Ti OC, so should I wait for RTX 3000 series GPU lineup or is this ok right now?

It's esports games and the settings are generally at low for most of them. would think literally any of the 3rd gen R5+ parts would be more than fine with a 2060S or 5700XT. Would look more into monitors tbh no point getting a PC for esports that can churn out 300FPS if you're on a 60Hz display. 


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7 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

It's esports games and the settings are generally at low for most of them. would think literally any of the 3rd gen R5+ parts would be more than fine with a 2060S or 5700XT. Would look more into monitors tbh no point getting a PC for esports that can churn out 300FPS if you're on a 60Hz display. 

Dude I’m going for the Alienware AW2521HF which is a 240hz 1ms response time IPS panel... Now if there’s one better than this, pls enlighten me...

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47 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

Dude I’m going for the Alienware AW2521HF which is a 240hz 1ms response time IPS panel... Now if there’s one better than this, pls enlighten me...

Well i'd go TN for a high refresh display, IPS has better colour but worse response times and the "1ms" ones are generally software tricks. Plus IPS glow etc. 


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4 hours ago, Harit Paurana said:

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late to post, for 240hz just go with 10900k,  you'd need every last bit of juice when it comes to games like apex/fn, the exception is CSGO, then u have to go amd.


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If you can wait, wait for ryzen 4000 series performance reveal and 3080ti. (something in ryzen 4000 might edge out intel, maybe the 4800x or 4900x?)

 

If you need to buy now, 10900k and 2080ti will saturate your 240hz monitor better than anything else on the market.  

 

That is all


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