Need help with a prebuild from ALDI

[Prebuild_Noob]

17 minutes ago, mbntr said:

Nope, the NH-D15 is 165mm, it's huge, infact the fan only is 150 mm, you could just buy a bigger AIO, the price is the same and it would be supported by your case

Ah, ok, thats why I asked

Do you have experience with watercooling?
I was wondering if lowering the Temps inside the PC with Case Fans would make a difference.
Also, how much Temperature would be expected with the current setup? how much do you think would change with 240mm?

Sorry If Im asking too much, Im just happy that people help me

[Prebuild_Noob]

Ok, I have one last question before I go research on my own again. you all have been super helpfull, thansk for that!

I went to the Manufacturers Website and they have a simular build but with a 360mm Watercooler. the only thing Im not sure about is the Grafics card:
MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER VENTUS XS OC

Could anyone tell me what the VENTUS XS OC means?
From what I could find it seems to be smaller, but a bit more powerfull than "Standart" RTX 2080 SUPER while drawing less electricity (6 pin vs 8 pin).
Are there any drawbacks with the size?

Edited May 23, 2020 by Prebuild_Noob
Forgot to include power draw of graphics card

[mbntr]

2 hours ago, Prebuild_Noob said:

Ah, ok, thats why I asked

Do you have experience with watercooling?
I was wondering if lowering the Temps inside the PC with Case Fans would make a difference.
Also, how much Temperature would be expected with the current setup? how much do you think would change with 240mm?

Sorry If Im asking too much, Im just happy that people help me

Yes, I'm running custom water cooling, It can really help with overclocking, I have an i5 8600k and I got it to 5.3 GHz, the 240 mm rad I have would have been enough if I had delidded the CPU.
In my opinion a 120mm cooler can handle a 9900k, not well but it can. Undervolting can help with temperatures (it's like overclocking, but instead of getting higher clock speeds you get lower temperatures on the cpu). In gaming the cpu doesn't get really hot, if in prime95 (a well known stress testing tool) the cpu reaches 96c in gaming it generally won't go over the high 60s mid 70s, hell, for a wile i ran my cpu at 4.8 GHz on a 92mm air cooler

[Prebuild_Noob]

58 minutes ago, mbntr said:

Yes, I'm running custom water cooling, It can really help with overclocking, I have an i5 8600k and I got it to 5.3 GHz, the 240 mm rad I have would have been enough if I had delidded the CPU.
In my opinion a 120mm cooler can handle a 9900k, not well but it can. Undervolting can help with temperatures (it's like overclocking, but instead of getting higher clock speeds you get lower temperatures on the cpu). In gaming the cpu doesn't get really hot, if in prime95 (a well known stress testing tool) the cpu reaches 96c in gaming it generally won't go over the high 60s mid 70s, hell, for a wile i ran my cpu at 4.8 GHz on a 92mm air cooler

delidded?

So undervolting decreases the ammount of electricity the chip gets, right? So it will decrease performance.
This might sound dumb, but couldnt you basically "underclock" for the same effect? Im trying to understand the Idea behind it

Funny enough, another regional variant seems to have proper cooling (360mm Radiator), but then has an XS Variant of the GPU, which as far as I read leads to higher temperatures. I kinda hope its a typo and my ALDI also gets the 360mm

[Kilrah]

4 hours ago, Prebuild_Noob said:

So Ill have to consider how much having a warranty is worth for me...

Note you'd obviously also have warranty on the parts, just not on the whole system. And that can be a good thing, if a part fails you can RMA just that and find a loaner in the meantime to continue using the machine, when you get whole machine warranty you basically have to ship it out and be without it for a few weeks.

[Kilrah]

1 hour ago, mbntr said:

hell, for a wile i ran my cpu at 4.8 GHz on a 92mm air cooler

Eh, my 9900K has been folding for days at 4.5-4.6 under an NH-L9i.

 

But that's because the system is a tiny SFF, if I had a full case for it I'd put proper cooling and as long as there's appropriate room I wouldn't be happy with a subpar cooler.

[Vishera]

4 hours ago, mbntr said:

Nope, the NH-D15 is 165mm, it's huge, infact the fan only is 150 mm, you could just buy a bigger AIO, the price is the same and it would be supported by your case

For that there is the NH-D15s which is the lower in height version of the NH-D15,

The NH-D15s is 160mm which is compatible with the case and is cheaper than AIOs with similar performance.

[Prebuild_Noob]

On 5/23/2020 at 10:33 PM, Kilrah said:

Note you'd obviously also have warranty on the parts, just not on the whole system. And that can be a good thing, if a part fails you can RMA just that and find a loaner in the meantime to continue using the machine, when you get whole machine warranty you basically have to ship it out and be without it for a few weeks.

Ill have to look this up in the case of this offer since they give you 3 years on the system. Im not sure if that extends to all the seperate parts as they are or just the complete system. Thanks for the tipp though, ill check out if that would work

[mbntr]

On 5/23/2020 at 10:01 PM, Prebuild_Noob said:

delidded?

So undervolting decreases the ammount of electricity the chip gets, right? So it will decrease performance.
This might sound dumb, but couldnt you basically "underclock" for the same effect? Im trying to understand the Idea behind it

Funny enough, another regional variant seems to have proper cooling (360mm Radiator), but then has an XS Variant of the GPU, which as far as I read leads to higher temperatures. I kinda hope its a typo and my ALDI also gets the 360mm

nope, when running stock the cpu gets more voltage than it needs, if you keep the same clock speed the performance will be the same, but the power consumption lower.

Power consumption is determined by 3 factors, Voltage, Temperature and clock speed