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X570 Motherboard suggestion || Frist Gaming PC

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello

looking for some suggestion here.

I have selected below specs for my first gaming PC.

Ideally looking to be future proof so I can use Ryzen 4000 series PCU when released and a bit of overclocking if possible/needed.

 

Thanks

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£178.34) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 120 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£66.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£293.47 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£92.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  (£682.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.38 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£69.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Total: £1451.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-13 10:30 BST+0100

 

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made some changes:

3600 isn't much different from the 3600x (not worth the price difference)

120mm aio coolers are weaker than cheap air coolers

picked a cheaper mobo that is as good

better case with airflow (still white)

 

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Prime X570-P, TUF X570-PLUS or wait for MSI's X570 Tomahawk.


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MSI X570 Tomahawk +1


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Posted · Original PosterOP
15 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

made some changes:

3600 isn't much different from the 3600x (not worth the price difference)

120mm aio coolers are weaker than cheap air coolers

picked a cheaper mobo that is as good

better case with airflow (still white)

 

 

Thank you 

So you reckon Asus TUF is a good one to handle 12 cores easily in future ? if I plan on to swap out with Ryen 9 3950X or something ? or any Ryzen 4xxx ? 

Thanks for your advice on cooler... will this support radiators and water cooling if needed in future ?

14 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Prime X570-P, TUF X570-PLUS or wait for MSI's X570 Tomahawk.

I was initially inclined towards X570-E but there is a lot of talking about 16 phase PWM which I am clueless about hence my ask here

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7 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

 

Thank you 

So you reckon Asus TUF is a good one to handle 12 cores easily in future ? if I plan on to swap out with Ryen 9 3950X or something ? or any Ryzen 4xxx ? 

Thanks for your advice on cooler... will this support radiators and water cooling if needed in future ?

I was initially inclined towards X570-E but there is a lot of talking about 16 phase PWM which I am clueless about hence my ask here

I run a 3900x on the Tuf it is fine.  it is recommended because of its very good power delivery system, which I am hoping can run the next gen Ryzen - if I see a reason to upgrade.

 

I alsao run an AIO on the board, no issues with clearance, and that is with the block being the pump, so unlikely to be any issues with a custom water loop.

 

If you meant the case, it is a mid tower case, it will be fine, and also you still need good airflow even if water cooling, RAM/VRM both need some air flow to keep cool.

 

I don't really understand the whole 'phase power' delivery system, nor am I inclined to learn.  I just went by what experts said of that delivery system and which boards had the best within my budget, and the Tuf was described by several people as having excellent power delivery, up there with boards that cost a lot more.

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9 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

I was initially inclined towards X570-E but there is a lot of talking about 16 phase PWM which I am clueless about hence my ask here

The X570-E is a bit more expensive than the boards I've mentioned but it's a really good board. That being said, with the Tomahawk coming in at $200, it looks like there won't be much point in spending more than that.

Also, even the TUF X570-PLUS in @boggy77's build above should be adequate for a 3950X, even with PBO enabled, especially if you have some airflow around the VRM heatsinks.


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Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

Peripherals: Steelseries Rival 600 & Logitech MX Master 3 | Ducky Shine 7 Gunmetal (Cherry MX Brown) | Sennheiser Game One | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

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have a look at this...=x...MSI go!!!


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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14 minutes ago, ZephCloud said:

MSI X570 Tomahawk +1

I can understand the view, the B450 Tomahawk is a very good board, but I would rather wait until people get hands on, test it and see whether any corners were cut before I would recommend it.

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2 minutes ago, ZephCloud said:

have a look at this...=x...MSI go!!!

I didn't know it had been reviewed, thanks.

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37 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

Thank you 

So you reckon Asus TUF is a good one to handle 12 cores easily in future ? if I plan on to swap out with Ryen 9 3950X or something ? or any Ryzen 4xxx ? 

Thanks for your advice on cooler... will this support radiators and water cooling if needed in future ?

yes, the tuf is fine with a 12 core cpu.

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27 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

I can understand the view, the B450 Tomahawk is a very good board, but I would rather wait until people get hands on, test it and see whether any corners were cut before I would recommend it.

 

25 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

I didn't know it had been reviewed, thanks.

hehe...it has been reviewed...but when can we buy???almost a month since this review...=x


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Posted · Original PosterOP
32 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

I run a 3900x on the Tuf it is fine.  it is recommended because of its very good power delivery system, which I am hoping can run the next gen Ryzen - if I see a reason to upgrade.

 

I alsao run an AIO on the board, no issues with clearance, and that is with the block being the pump, so unlikely to be any issues with a custom water loop.

 

If you meant the case, it is a mid tower case, it will be fine, and also you still need good airflow even if water cooling, RAM/VRM both need some air flow to keep cool.

 

I don't really understand the whole 'phase power' delivery system, nor am I inclined to learn.  I just went by what experts said of that delivery system and which boards had the best within my budget, and the Tuf was described by several people as having excellent power delivery, up there with boards that cost a lot more.

 

32 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

The X570-E is a bit more expensive than the boards I've mentioned but it's a really good board. That being said, with the Tomahawk coming in at $200, it looks like there won't be much point in spending more than that.

Also, even the TUF X570-PLUS in @boggy77's build above should be adequate for a 3950X, even with PBO enabled, especially if you have some airflow around the VRM heatsinks.

 

31 minutes ago, ZephCloud said:

 

 

have a look at this...=x...MSI go!!!

 

30 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

I can understand the view, the B450 Tomahawk is a very good board, but I would rather wait until people get hands on, test it and see whether any corners were cut before I would recommend it.

 

ok so looks like I will wait for MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK to be released here in the UK.

I already purchased RAM and 3600X( as it was nly £2 0more on sale a few days ago)

just need to wait on GPU lol 

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1 minute ago, sugarpeter21 said:

 

 

 

 

ok so looks like I will wait for MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK to be released here in the UK.

YES!!!...GO MSI!!!!<3..=p


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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2 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

hahahahah let me know when you get your commission :P

lol...i don't work there...just that it's not bad nowadays...unlike the pass...xD...and i'm on the MEG X570 ACE...so cheer for them..=p


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, ZephCloud said:

lol...i don't work there...just that it's not bad nowadays...unlike the pass...xD...and i'm on the MEG X570 ACE...so cheer for them..=p

ha ha

I was only messing bud .. no worries 

 

its tough to build a PC in covid-19 

most of the parts are not in stock 

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8 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

ha ha

I was only messing bud .. no worries 

 

its tough to build a PC in covid-19 

most of the parts are not in stock 

ya...and getting a UPS or Surge Protectors will help in overclocking...xD...my 3200g couldn't overclock without it..the integrated graphics running at 1750mhz now...wasn't able to pass stock before..the ram was 2666mhz now 2933mhz...all i do is getting a surge protector...

my room already has a surge protector so my pc overclocks well too..xD

but idk why it won't overclock well without them..=p


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Posted · Original PosterOP

is this looks alright to everyone ?

obviously subject to MSI mobo availability.

but I will get all the other parts and have a spare machine#(Lenovo C30) where I will use GPU for time being 

Also 3600x and RAM was purchased a week ago.

 

I have changed GPU solely due to availability 

 

 

once confirmed I will make my move for rest of the parts.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£178.83) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£84.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£210.00) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£92.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (£743.46 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£69.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Total: £1460.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-13 11:57 BST+0100

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looks good..go for it...<3


  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS (3600Mhz CL18)
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 5/17/2020 at 8:00 PM, sugarpeter21 said:

Chaps,What alternative you would recommend if MSI MAG x570 doesn’t launch anytime soon.

any update on this guys ?

Thanks

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11 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

any update on this guys ?

Thanks

probably delayed shipments in regards to the tomahawk. dunno when it will come along, but you can just grab a Tuf or elite. they will deliver more than adequate powerdelivery.

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