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Why do I have to upgrade this gaming PC already??

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Sweet. Now I can feel even less competent in my setup.  XD


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Sorry...you're saying this wasn't compatible with *Intel chipset* provided USB?  If that's the case...shit is busted and whoever is making the trackers needs to fix it.

 

Edit: oh wait...AMD platform at the start....nevermind you kinda expect shit to not work with AMD.


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37 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Sorry...you're saying this wasn't compatible with *Intel chipset* provided USB?  If that's the case...shit is busted and whoever is making the trackers needs to fix it.

 

Edit: oh wait...AMD platform at the start....nevermind you kinda expect shit to not work with AMD.

No joke here. But this is a major reasons I prefer Intel's CPUs over AMD's ones historically.

Odd USB problems, systems not wanting to boot due to one odd thing after another, PCIe failures, random memory issues, etc.... All problems I have had with my multiple AMD systems.

While my numerous Intel one's have all just worked. (though one Intel system doesn't work at all, but its 15+ years old by now, so likely some age related failure, tin whisker, or dried-out/shorted cap or something...)

Though, then Intel came out with a whole slew of security issues, quickly turning the whole decision into what issue one rather wishes to have....
And AMD have recently increased their performance quite a bit while Intel has supply shortages that haunts them, so the decision is in AMD's favor, especially if they improve system stability.

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52 minutes ago, Meppi2345 said:

It looks to be Sonnet Allegro USB 3.0 4-port with heatsink on it.

https://www.sonnettech.com/product/allegrousb3pcie4port.html

Looks like they're redirecting away from the 3.0 card you mentioned. In fact, I only see 3.2 cards on their site.

 

I think he has the USB3-PRO-4PM-E card... which is discontinued.

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/legacyproducts/allegroprousb3pcie.html

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8 minutes ago, Quarnozian said:

Not so sure about that... he specifically points out that each port has its own dedicated USB controller chip. I don't see that on any of the Sonnet cards.

Watch that close up on card it has clear sonnet logo on it. Here is link to local shop with picture of card that is damn near identical with exception of heatsink. https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/154509/usb3-4pm-e/sonnet-allegro-usb-3_0-4-port-lisakortti-pcie-2_0-x1

Oh and it is listed on their site too in legacy products.

https://www.sonnettech.com/product/legacyproducts/allegroprousb3pcie.html

 

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I do love that board. I hope the b550 refresh has a bit better vrms.


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1 hour ago, Nystemy said:

No joke here. But this is a major reasons I prefer Intel's CPUs over AMD's ones historically.

Odd USB problems, systems not wanting to boot due to one odd thing after another, PCIe failures, random memory issues, etc.... All problems I have had with my multiple AMD systems.

While my numerous Intel one's have all just worked. (though one Intel system doesn't work at all, but its 15+ years old by now, so likely some age related failure, tin whisker, or dried-out/shorted cap or something...)

Though, then Intel came out with a whole slew of security issues, quickly turning the whole decision into what issue one rather wishes to have....
And AMD have recently increased their performance quite a bit while Intel has supply shortages that haunts them, so the decision is in AMD's favor, especially if they improve system stability.

FYI, Intel boards can have USB issues as well, I have come across these similar types of issues on Intel and AMD.. I don't know what the heck happen with the USB spec, but different controllers revisions and depending on build dates, have incompatibility issues with USB 3.0 and up devices all over the place. Try using a kinect 2.0 on your PC.. lol suppose to be USB 3.0 but only works on a handful of USB 3.0 controllers due to strict spec requirements on power and throughput. 

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5 minutes ago, vipast said:

FYI, Intel boards can have USB issues as well, I have come across these similar types of issues on Intel and AMD.. I don't know what the heck happen with the USB spec, but different controllers revisions and depending on build dates, have incompatibility issues with USB 3.0 and up devices all over the place. Try using a kinect 2.0 on your PC.. lol suppose to be USB 3.0 but only works on a handful of USB 3.0 controllers due to strict spec requirements on power and throughput. 

Yes the introduction of USB 3 has made that a lot more iffy most of the time for both sides of the market.
Would though not fully blame it on Intel nor AMD. (since its due to wacky USB related issues mostly outside of their control...)
 

My experience were mostly related to USB 2.0 back before Ryzen were a thing. (Back in the good old days when USB were simpler and far more stable across the board...)
Not to mention that buggy USB were just one of a list of issues.

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i know it's more about the build process, but i love you guys a little more for doing a build in the cerberus 655042292004159494.png?v=1

 

EDIT: just for trivia, there's an ATX variant from Sliger, and there's a separate extra for dual 120mm/140mm slim fan mounts at the area where the handle mounting hardware would go (i.e. the top), but there's a spiritual successor to the Cerberus X being made by the designers of the Cerberus cases in the works (that's supposedly in-line with computex timeline because their production contractor in taiwan was affected by covid as with everyone else)

 

the brief backstory: this case was designed around a workstation mATX board and the Noctua C14(S) in mind, with as little empty space as practically possible. sadly mATX didn't get the love it should (the last was Asrock's X399M Taichi. an earlier-gen threadripper mATX board)

 

for my build i run most of my cables (that traverse across the motherboard) under the motherboard, so there isn't as much of a rat's nest as something without cable-management channels would. i went aircooling with the C14S, with intake from the side ("above" the air cooler) and out from the top, effectively making the CPU part almost open-air in cooling. the SFX PSU was mounted in the front, with a fan at the lower position for the GPU

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@LinusTechWhen you rebuild this next (which I assume will be at least 3 times this week) you can keep it ITX with Sligers SM580 as they have triple slots and bifurcation risers to allow both a GPU and USB hub (on the right chipset of course)

 

Not practical for expansion, but you’re obviously on some level enjoying rebuilding and troubleshooting this machine so often.

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Is this an issue to only this board/chipset, or is it more widespread? I am considering building a new pc witht he Lian-Li TU150 as a case, but if this is indeed an issue on all boards i'll have to reconsider my case.

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4 hours ago, Dredgy said:

@LinusTechWhen you rebuild this next (which I assume will be at least 3 times this week) you can keep it ITX with Sligers SM580 as they have triple slots and bifurcation risers to allow both a GPU and USB hub (on the right chipset of course)

 

Not practical for expansion, but you’re obviously on some level enjoying rebuilding and troubleshooting this machine so often.

Yeah that thing looks sick... Kinda considering it...

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" haha ! get wrecked my literal son" ..

 

Ok yea i laughed at that.

 

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Kinda annoying that the whole video spawned because of the need to install the USB card, but there is no part number in the description and the video of the card is out of focus :\  .

 

I'll be picking up a FS-4C-U8S-Pro because I have a similar problem.

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