Gaming PC Build

[Zando_]

If you're playing on a 240Hz monitor and/or super obsessed with input lag, the 9900K. Else, the 3950X. Although if you do more video editing than gaming, and aren't doing something very specific like using the 2080 Ti's NVENC encoder + CPU for rendering (Davinci Resolve can do this), the 3950X is probably the better choice. Really depends where your priorities are, and what refresh rate you're running. 

 

Is there a reason to go with a Titan RTX over SLI 2080 Tis? The Titan RTX is only a few % faster in games, so even if you play games where SLI doesn't even work, you barely lose out. In games where SLI does work, even if scaling is really bad (which is usually anything 30% or below), you're still faster than a Titan RTX. It can be more of a hassle though, so if you'd rather just the best possible single card, that's understandable. 

Also interesting, seems even out of the box the EVGA 2080 Ti Kingpin (IIRC it's around $2000, so $400 less than the TItan RTX, while coming with far better power delivery and cooling) clocks much higher: 

I don't know how that translates into gaming performance though, but the gap between the Titan and 2080 Ti isn't very big, if you run a decent OC the 2080 Ti will likely close that gap. 

[berberries]

sounds like you are creating a "dream build" lol.

 

240fps on fortnite is easy even on 1440p. 2070 super and above should do. cpu wise intel is pretty much dumb now and getting a Ryzen 7 3700x will be more than enough.

 

Unless you are creating premiere pro and after effects timelines with huge amount of files and many many layers it wont use more than 20GB of ram by itself (I know it can get higher, but realistically if you are at that level you should know how to configure a pc specifically to the needs of your work). so 32GB of ram will be more than enough, heck I even know some people who do commercial videos editing on rigs with only 16GB of ram.

 

but if you want to go 0 compromise why not threadripper. If I'm not mistaken 3rd gen threadripper also has really good single threaded performance.

[Mister Woof]

dude if you're buying a titan you may as well spend the baller bux on intel hedt because why not? you're swimming in the cash.

[Harit Paurana]

1 hour ago, berberries said:

sounds like you are creating a "dream build" lol.

 

240fps on fortnite is easy even on 1440p. 2070 super and above should do. cpu wise intel is pretty much dumb now and getting a Ryzen 7 3700x will be more than enough.

 

Unless you are creating premiere pro and after effects timelines with huge amount of files and many many layers it wont use more than 20GB of ram by itself (I know it can get higher, but realistically if you are at that level you should know how to configure a pc specifically to the needs of your work). so 32GB of ram will be more than enough, heck I even know some people who do commercial videos editing on rigs with only 16GB of ram.

 

but if you want to go 0 compromise why not threadripper. If I'm not mistaken 3rd gen threadripper also has really good single threaded performance.

Bro I'm mainly building it for gaming, and I assure you that it aint a dream build. For gaming threadripper is kinda crap.  So should I go i9 9900K or Ryzen 9 3950X? I am imperative on this since I am doing professional competitive gaming an would not tolerate even the slightest performance compromise

 

[Zando_]

6 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

Bro I'm mainly building it for gaming, and I assure you that it aint a dream build. For gaming threadripper is kinda crap.  So should I go i9 9900K or Ryzen 9 3950X? I am imperative on this since I am doing professional competitive gaming an would not tolerate even the slightest performance compromise

 

3000 series TR can apparently beat the 3950X if you disable HT and some cores and really push them. It's the same cores, just more of them. Latencies remain high though. 

If you're doing competitive gaming as your job, get a 9900K or 9900KS, push it to the highest clock possible (both core and cache, cache OCing makes a difference in 1% lows and such) without hitting unsafe voltages or temps, and get well binned RAM that you then tune for lower timings to again, reduce latencies and overall input lag. Dropping to 16-32GB RAM at the tightest timings possible (getting a b-die kit would be smart, they usually OC very well, and IIRC can take more voltage than other RAM, allowing you to push them further) would be a much better idea. No competitive games (AFAIK) are going to eat over 32GB RAM. SLI can add some slight latency, so if you're actually serious about 0 compromises, you'd want the fastest possible single card. So either a pushed Kingpin 2080 Ti or Titan RTX on water. 

 

If you're not going to OC at all, then a 9900KS (slightly lower IPC than the 9900K, but 300Mhz higher all core boost clock) + RAM around 3200-3600Mhz or so with the tightest timings possible + a Titan RTX would likely be the absolute best. RAM speed would depend on whether or not your games care about RAM bandwidth. 

[GreyestGoat]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($338.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($259.97 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card  ($1099.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($253.28 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 kHz Sound Card  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor  ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: DROP CTRL Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($240.00 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Viper Ultimate Wireless Optical Mouse  ($149.99 @ Best Buy)
Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO  Headphones  ($164.95 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Audioengine A5+ Black 100 W 2.0 Channel Speakers  ($399.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $3941.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-21 15:41 EDT-0400

[Harit Paurana]

12 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

3000 series TR can apparently beat the 3950X if you disable HT and some cores and really push them. It's the same cores, just more of them. Latencies remain high though. 

If you're doing competitive gaming as your job, get a 9900K or 9900KS, push it to the highest clock possible (both core and cache, cache OCing makes a difference in 1% lows and such) without hitting unsafe voltages or temps, and get well binned RAM that you then tune for lower timings to again, reduce latencies and overall input lag. Dropping to 16-32GB RAM at the tightest timings possible (getting a b-die kit would be smart, they usually OC very well, and IIRC can take more voltage than other RAM, allowing you to push them further) would be a much better idea. No competitive games (AFAIK) are going to eat over 32GB RAM. SLI can add some slight latency, so if you're actually serious about 0 compromises, you'd want the fastest possible single card. So either a pushed Kingpin 2080 Ti or Titan RTX on water. 

 

If you're not going to OC at all, then a 9900KS (slightly lower IPC than the 9900K, but 300Mhz higher all core boost clock) + RAM around 3200-3600Mhz or so with the tightest timings possible + a Titan RTX would likely be the absolute best. RAM speed would depend on whether or not your games care about RAM bandwidth. 

Thanks a lot buddy

[Harit Paurana]

Ryzen 9 3950X vs Intel i9 9900K.... for gaming, streaming, video editing and programming, which is the best one? I expect zero compromise in performance for gaming. I’ve been confused between these two since ages

[minibois]

1 minute ago, Harit Paurana said:

Ryzen 9 3950X vs Intel i9 9900K

1 minute ago, Harit Paurana said:

for gaming

would be a minimal difference, unless you're playing at 144Hz+

then the 9900K would do better

2 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

streaming

3950X or GPU encoding

2 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

video editing

9900K for Premiere, 3950X for all others solutions

3 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

programming

Are you compiling such large programs that you think either CPU would make a difference?

[Fasauceome]

part 3? you made two other pointless posts?

 

more cores = more better, 3950X wins in a landslide.

[Grabhanem]

1 minute ago, Harit Paurana said:

Ryzen 9 3950X vs Intel i9 9900K.... for gaming, streaming, video editing and programming, which is the best one? I expect zero compromise in performance for gaming. I’ve been confused between these two since ages

The 9900K has a very slight advantage in gaming, but not one you'd really notice. For your use case the 3950X would probably be the better choice, as it'll handle streaming and video editing much better, as well as probably get better compile times for programming due to its extra L3 cache.

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, minibois said:

9900K for Premiere, 3950X for all others solutions

Depends on the exact workload, but I think the 3950x is fastaer on average now

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CPU-performance-AMD-Ryzen-9-3950X-1615/

[WkdPaul]

* threads merged *

 

@Harit Paurana please stop creating multiple threads for this. Doing so is considered spamming.

[Fatih19]

On 4/21/2020 at 11:01 PM, Mister Woof said:

dude if you're buying a titan you may as well spend the baller bux on intel hedt because why not? you're swimming in the cash.

If he wanted to go high-end, Threadripper 3000 is better for bragging rights since Intel Casket Lake is kinda dirt cheap compared to them.

[Daweeedo]

On 4/21/2020 at 5:46 PM, Harit Paurana said:

Hey guys,

So I have dropped the idea of getting a gaming laptop and I shall instead get an entire PC. I had a doubt though... For the CPU should I go with the Intel i9 9900K or should I go with an AMD Ryzen 9 3950X. I am going to play games (Of Course), stream from the same PC, study, do programming, and video editing on the PC. So basically i wanna build a beast of a build with zero compromise in gaming and streaming performance. I would love to have at least 240fps lock on Fortnite. For the GPU, as of now I'm going with a Titan RTX, but I'm open to any other suggestions and I'd really appreciate if you help out with this as well. As for ram, I'm going 64 gigs of Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro.

I'm not sure if anyone suggested that, but how about getting a 1000d case from corsair and build two systems inside and then stream via capture card so you can stream/record without any framerate loss?

[wall03]

On 4/10/2020 at 9:10 AM, Mateyyy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$434.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.23 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	$299.00 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$159.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$399.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$739.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$136.69 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2354.88
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-10 09:09 EDT-0400

$5000 for a gaming and streaming build is ridiculous, even with the build above I overspent on the SSD, CPU, potentially even RAM and motherboard, considering your use case.

Your build DID overspend on the mobo and CPU and SSD definalty

[Mateyyy]

3 minutes ago, wall03 said:

Your build DID overspend on the mobo and CPU and SSD definalty

Yes, hence why I DID say that when I wrote the post lol