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Don Nantwich

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So, I currently have an exclusively Apple setup but want to move to a PC base as I'm looking to do some gaming, mainly Flight simulator and X-Plane with some Battelfied V / CS Go, the daytime use is development so it's code editors and spotify.

 

I already have a keyboard and mouse I'm happy with and want to love to a single widescreen monitor.

 

I've looked around and put together the following parts list but would appreciate any thoughts / tweaks / replacements y'all can suggest.

 

My Max budget is £2500 UK, this list comes in £150 under budget so there is some wriggle room.

 

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX2070 Windforce 2 X2 Rev 3

 

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X

 

Mobo: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master

 

Ram: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro Black 2X8 3600mhz

 

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB

 

Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i  Platinum

 

Case: Corsair iCue 220t

 

PSU: Kolink Enclave 600W

 

Display: MSI Optix Mag341CQ

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5 minutes ago, Don Nantwich said:

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X

Are you sure you need this? You could go for a 3700x and a better graphics card... unless your programs take a long time to compile or are particularly CPU intensive you probably have no use for the extra cores.


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Just now, Don Nantwich said:

Thanks for the reply, moving to the 3700x gives me about £770 for GPU, any recommendations?

You don't need to downgrade. Just get rid of the unneeded stuff like the AIO

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£419.97 @ Box Limited)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler  (£59.58 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£189.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£178.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£129.99 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual Video Card  (£1007.34 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£82.98 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£94.99 @ AWD-IT)
Monitor: MSI OPTIX MAG271CQR 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£344.00 @ Box Limited)
Total: £2507.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 11:50 BST+0100

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3 minutes ago, Don Nantwich said:

Thanks for the reply, moving to the 3700x gives me about £770 for GPU, any recommendations?

You can get a 2080 super for that. You can fit a 2080ti in your budget with the adjustments @5x5 suggested but I still question if the 3900x is worth it for you - you can just save the money.

 

Also please quote people or we won't get a notification.


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sudo chmod -R 000 /*

What is scaling and how does it work? Asus PB287Q unboxing! Console alternatives :D Watch Netflix with Kodi on Arch Linux Sharing folders over the internet using SSH Beginner's Guide To LTT (by iamdarkyoshi)

Sauron'stm Product Scores:

Spoiler

Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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The one from 5x5 is a great config, I would also try to get a 2080Ti for that budget and for flight sim.

 

Not sure for Battlefield and the upcoming Flight Simulator but for CSGO and X-Plane you would probably get slightly better performance with an Intel chip since they rely more on single thread performance.

 

However I also think Ryzen is overall a better choice, your system will be more flexible for other uses.

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2 minutes ago, Mamonos said:

The one from 5x5 is a great config, I would also try to get a 2080Ti for that budget and for flight sim.

 

Not sure for Battlefield and the upcoming Flight Simulator but for CSGO and X-Plane you would probably get slightly better performance with an Intel chip since they rely more on single thread performance.

 

However I also think Ryzen is overall a better choice, your system will be more flexible for other uses.

Funnily enough CS:GO performs better on Ryzen :D - Source REALLY prefers IPC it seems.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

You don't need to downgrade. Just get rid of the unneeded stuff like the AIO

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£419.97 @ Box Limited)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler  (£59.58 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£189.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£178.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£129.99 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual Video Card  (£1007.34 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£82.98 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£94.99 @ AWD-IT)
Monitor: MSI OPTIX MAG271CQR 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£344.00 @ Box Limited)
Total: £2507.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 11:50 BST+0100

Superb, thanks buddy

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Sauron said:

You can get a 2080 super for that. You can fit a 2080ti in your budget with the adjustments @5x5 suggested but I still question if the 3900x is worth it for you - you can just save the money.

 

Also please quote people or we won't get a notification.

Ah, I see, thanks for the tip

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