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Figuring out if I need to upgrade or not, also questions about amd motherboards

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Hello there guys of this marvelous forum, today is a happy day, after saving a bit of money by working a crappy, low paid job, I'm able to upgrade my gaming rig! As of now it sports an Intel i7 4790, a h97 pro asus motherboard and a nvidia msi armor 1070!,I would like to upgrade the mobo with a ryzen 5 3600 cpu, a low budget b450-F asus rog strix motherboard and some ddr4 ram.. Essentially I wanted to ask you.. Should I upgrade? Should I instead change the graphic card? (like mine got fixed once, I don't know how much time is going to survive), also.. Is there any difference between the asus rog strix motherboard and other lower budget boards in the *under 100 dollars* range? (the rog one is roughly 130 dollari) Thank you for any reply! 

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1070 is still great card. upgrading your cpu will be the besr rn.

 

Ryzen 5 3600

16 gb g.skill Rippjaws 3600mhz cl 16 (cheapest 3600mhz cl16 kit in USA)

asus b450-f has bad vrm and you need to bios update it in order it to work with the ryzen 5 3600. MSI Tomahawk MAX is a lot better and it has already support for your ryzen

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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6 minutes ago, MagePepsi said:

Hello there guys of this marvelous forum, today is a happy day, after saving a bit of money by working a crappy, low paid job, I'm able to upgrade my gaming rig! As of now

What's your monitor resolution/refresh rate and what kind of games do you play?

 

that i7 should still be fine unless you're trying to go past like 100fps average in more modern games.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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Thank you to the both of you for the reply, I'm Into 1080p gaming, nothing more, 60 fps is enough and my monitor it's a cheap samsung hd TV monitor

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3 minutes ago, MagePepsi said:

Thank you to the both of you for the reply, I'm Into 1080p gaming, nothing more, 60 fps is enough and my monitor it's a cheap samsung hd TV monitor

Then I probably wouldn't bother with a CPU upgrade just yet, as Ryzen 4000 should be out...Q4/eventually, and I'd grab a monitor upgrade of some kind with it, or just upgrade the monitor first to either a 1440p 100-120hz ultra wide, or a 1080p 240hz display, both around $300

 

a $100 B450 MSI Max motherboard, which have decent VRMs, or a B450 Gaming Plus has USB bios flashing for recovery are fine boards for up to the 8 core or even a stock 12 core as long as it has plenty of airflow.
 

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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Thank you kindly for the help! I'm still figuring out what to do, but if I will upgrade, I'm going to keep what you all said, in mind! Thanks! 

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Also is there any difference between the tomahawk b450 max and the gaming plus max? Sorry to bother

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1 minute ago, MagePepsi said:

Also is there any difference between the tomahawk b450 max and the gaming plus max? Sorry to bother

I think all of them have the same 4 phase VRM, only difference might be the I/O, audio codec, or the size/shape of the VRM heatsink.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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Last question srsly while I am at it.. (thank you kindly) will a nvidia rtx 2060 bottleneck with a i7 4790 on 1080p gaming? 

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24 minutes ago, MagePepsi said:

Last question srsly while I am at it.. (thank you kindly) will a nvidia rtx 2060 bottleneck with a i7 4790 on 1080p gaming? 

a 1070 and a 2060 have the same performance

 

GPUs bottleneck your resolution/quality settings

CPU's bottleneck your max fps/refresh rate

I'd wait for the next generation GPUs as well.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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