(Update: laptop reviews) Not a bulldozing April fools joke - Intel new mobile processors announced

[williamcll]

Update: reviews are now coming in:

After months of speculation Intel has finally announced their next generation comet lake H processors, interestingly they are all rated as 45W TDP according to VideoCardz but Intel probably will go a lot higher than that.

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Intel announced its yet another 14nm series of processors for high-end gaming laptops. The series is based on Comet Lake-H architecture.

 

The flagship Core i9-10980HK processor has eight cores and sixteen threads, which is a similar configuration to recently announced AMD Ryzen 9 4900H (or Ryzen 7 4800H). Both series are competing in the 45W TDP segment, although this value is fully configurable in both ways.

 

The Core i9 processor in the Comet Lake-H series will boost up to 5.3 GHz (which is a Thermal Velocity Boost frequency). The TVB relies on temperature targets and power envelopes, and those can be configured by laptop makers. The 10980HK is the only fully unlocked CPU in the series, which means it is overclockable.

 

According to Intel, the Core i9-10980HK is 23% to 54% faster than Core i7-7820HK, while Core i7-10750H is up to 31% to 44% faster than i7-7700HQ.

 

Intel promises 30+ premium ultra-thin 20mm laptop designs and more than 100+ laptops with Core H-series on board.

 

 

 

 

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-announces-10th-gen-core-comet-lake-h-series-for-gaming-laptops

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/10th-gen-processors.html

Thoughts: The only thing they could do now is cut the price. There is only so much you can do to optimize CPU pipelines without a major change in software design. 

[TempestCatto]

Nothing feels new here..

[3rrant]

"Designed to be amazingly faster vs an enthusiast THREE YEARS OLD pc"? Did they seriously write this? In their presentation for a NEW product?

They are in deep S.

[CephDigital]

Wow I thought 10th gen naming scheme was already bad and they made it worse!

[Lakobrija]

3 minutes ago, 3rrant said:

"Designed to be amazingly faster vs an enthusiast THREE YEARS OLD pc"? Did they seriously write this? In their presentation for a NEW product?

They are in deep S.

8700k isn't that bad

[3rrant]

4 minutes ago, Lakobrija said:

8700k isn't that bad

Indeed. But marketing your NEW product as an equivalent of a three years old one, even if desktop, really means it can't even compete with the competition AND with your own already existing recent lineup (9980HK). Joke's on them I guess.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

32 minutes ago, Lakobrija said:

8700k isn't that bad

Unfortunately, that's not the CPU they meant, though.

[RedRound2]

Me going "that seems like a decent performance boost in graphics"

Looking at the games "Damn, thats red dead redemption 2. I wonder how many fps --- oh wow, no fps numbers given"

"Oh well, still looks decent compared to 9000 series ---- wait, what? Three year old iGPU? They're talking about Kaby Lake?! Back when 14nm had only one (+) after it??"

 

Yeah as if those kaby lake igpus could run games like red dead redemption. There's no point in calling it 40 percent or whatever improvement when it's an increase from 10 FPS to 20 FPS (and that would be 2x improvement, btw, not 1.4x)

 

Pfft Intel, come up with something competitive laptop chips in 1-1.5 years or else I'm going AMD for my next purchase

[CTR640]

More like Intel 10th Gen Corona-i9 Mobile. 5.3GHz on a mobile CPU, read carefully "Up to 5.3GHz"

I'm not even sure if this a 1 april fool joke but one thing is for sure: Intel is the joke themself.

[Techstorm970]

Oh my god...

 

Take a look at this:

https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-r20-scores-updated-results/
 

i7-10750H is 44% faster than i7-7700HQ???  So it's slower than an i7-8750H???

 

The announcement may not be an April Fools joke, but Intel certainly is!

 

AMD, welcome to the throne!  You earned it!

[CTR640]

4 minutes ago, Techstorm970 said:

Oh my god...

 

Take a look at this:

https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-r20-scores-updated-results/
 

i7-10750H is 44% faster than i7-7700HQ???  So it's slower than an i7-8750H???

 

The announcement may not be an April Fools joke, but Intel certainly is!

 

AMD, welcome to the throne!  You earned it!

I'm not sure what Intel is trying to do but holy shit, they are really a bunch of clowns tryna making bad balloonanimals

[DrMacintosh]

Time for OEMs to stop supporting Intel CPUs. 

[Teddy07]

15 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Time for OEMs to stop supporting Intel CPUs. 

Indeed

I really want to buy a Dell xps 15 but it only comes with Intel cpus. There is no way I am buying a laptop with a heater in it

[Dabombinable]

And if/when these come out, we'll be seeing their clock speed advertised as the maximum boost...the same as my i5 4440 was sold as being 3.3GHz (it runs at its base of 3.1 across all cores).

[ZcanKal]

Oh, great, one more generation like this and AMD will become Intel Circa 2013.

[Beerzerker]

Noticed all the chips they said it beats are older Intel chips - No AMD chips named. 

It's like they are beating themselves over the head with their own chips and the stupid as a result shows.

 

It's like "We improved our chips"...... DUUUH.
If they didn't there would be no point at all to it - And I'm not seeing much of one here anyway.

[justpoet]

27 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

Noticed all the chips they said it beats are older Intel chips - No AMD chips named. 

It's like they are beating themselves over the head with their own chips and the stupid as a result shows.

 

It's like "We improved our chips"...... DUUUH.
If they didn't there would be no point at all to it - And I'm not seeing much of one here anyway.

I mean…at least it isn't like some of the "enthusiast" 10th gen chips that are actually slower because of security mitigations built in.

[Bombastinator]

On apr 1 they announced this?  Intel knows what April fools day is.  I doubt they would make an announcement today.  I already fell for one April fools joke like a ton of bricks today.  (Nice job with the red banner btw.  I was annoyed for hours)

[Beerzerker]

Very good chance of it being a joke I'll admit.

We'll have to wait and see what tomorrow brings.

[FunkmastaFlex]

There goes Intel beating the 14nm dead horse again

[Dabombinable]

7 hours ago, RedRound2 said:

Me going "that seems like a decent performance boost in graphics"

Looking at the games "Damn, thats red dead redemption 2. I wonder how many fps --- oh wow, no fps numbers given"

"Oh well, still looks decent compared to 9000 series ---- wait, what? Three year old iGPU? They're talking about Kaby Lake?! Back when 14nm had only one (+) after it??"

 

Yeah as if those kaby lake igpus could run games like red dead redemption. There's no point in calling it 40 percent or whatever improvement when it's an increase from 10 FPS to 20 FPS (and that would be 2x improvement, btw, not 1.4x)

 

Pfft Intel, come up with something competitive laptop chips in 1-1.5 years or else I'm going AMD for my next purchase

I'm still remembering the performance increase from the HD4000 to 4600. 80% improvement over shit...and it was still shit (my Ati MR HD5650 1GB DDR3 1600 was faster).

 

[KWelz]

It really is amazing how much Intel is struggling right now.  

 

This is perfect evidence of how competition in the market is important.  Intel did nothing for years to really innovate.   They ignored AMD even after Ryzen was announced figuring that they could just crank up the clock speed a bit and call it good.   Then we got Zen+ and Zen2.   Intel isn't in trouble by any stretch.  They are too strong of a name and are the go too in too many industries.  But they have to adjust or that will change.  

 

I am curious to see what they have in the pipeline to counter AMD.  Because given development cycles of these types of products we are still seeing stuff that was already in the pipeline.  

 

[genexis_x]

5 hours ago, KWelz said:

This is perfect evidence of how competition in the market is important.  Intel did nothing for years to really innovate.   They ignored AMD even after Ryzen was announced figuring that they could just crank up the clock speed a bit and call it good.   Then we got Zen+ and Zen2.

Remember that without Ryzen, we would still stuck in 4c4t i5 and 4c8t i7.

[mr moose]

6 hours ago, KWelz said:

 Intel did nothing for years to really innovate.   They ignored AMD

 

 

10 minutes ago, genexis_x said:

Remember that without Ryzen, we would still stuck in 4c4t i5 and 4c8t i7.

 

There is a difference between you not seeing anything and them not doing anything.  10nm failed on them, they were trying, they just couldn't get it off the ground.  They have always been building bigger and better, and even though they have basically ballsed up an entire node shrink (major set back in any ones books) they are still producing products that are performing as well as the ryzen stuff, even if they don't want to sell them as cheap.

[TechyBen]

1 hour ago, mr moose said:

 

 

There is a difference between you not seeing anything and them not doing anything.  10nm failed on them, they were trying, they just couldn't get it off the ground.  They have always been building bigger and better, and even though they have basically ballsed up an entire node shrink (major set back in any ones books) they are still producing products that are performing as well as the ryzen stuff, even if they don't want to sell them as cheap.

I'd argue they [were not trying as hard or in the right places]. The position of AMD forced their hand in looking to reduce the cost of the chip, increase the production speed and thus improve the returns. Which resulted in the chiplet design.

 

Intel not having to worry, let the opportunity for them to get the chiplet design first (as a workable product, no idea on patents).

 

We would thus be in a very different position performance wise, perhaps with Intel having lower overall clocks, but higher core count. Not much of a difference, but the landscape and product bins would be different, if AMD had not had their hand forced.