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Posted · Original PosterOP

So im about to upgrade CPU. 

I mainly play Escape from Tarkov. I dont mind about price that much, but if i could get more power for less its fine.

 

My specs right now:

i7-6700k

1080ti 

32 gb

 

First i was thinking about the i7-9700k, because of its performance.

But then i started to think about r5 3600, and its price. How good would that be compared to the i7?

if the fps decrease from i7 to r5 is like 10-15 fps, i'll take the r5 no doubt.

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What's wrong with your 6700k?


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I think your current cpu is just fine. you will gain more fps in the i7 9700k but as of now, just wait for the zen 3 cpu. your 6700k is still fine as of now. 


Im with the mentaility of "IF IM NOT SURE IF ITS ENOUGH COOLING, GO OVERKILL"

 

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4 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

no don't use that stite.

8 minutes ago, MartinKweh said:

I think your current cpu is just fine. you will gain more fps in the i7 9700k but as of now, just wait for the zen 3 cpu. your 6700k is still fine as of now. 

a 9700K doesn't make sense. a 3700x is as fast single and multi recks it.


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I think 3700x is a good go...but don't really think you'll need a upgrade since 6700k still works well on the game.


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27 minutes ago, Spurgt_Fuglen said:

So instead of 3600, maybe i should aim for 3700x?

If you can afford it, yes. The 3700X is better than the 9700K in virtually all respects

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Just now, 5x5 said:

If you can afford it, yes. The 3700X is better than the 9700K in virtually all respects

Aight. As i said, money is not really a problem. The only thing im looking for is price to perf. and longevity.

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44 minutes ago, Spurgt_Fuglen said:

I just get bad fps. 

CPU is really hot and runs at 80-90% usesage.

Have had for 4 years. 

Is it being cooled properly so it can boost as much as possible and definitely not thortling? If yes then have you overclocked the CPU to try and get that little bit of extra performance out of it? Have you checked that no program is using the CPU in the background while you're gaming?

 

6 minutes ago, Spurgt_Fuglen said:

Aight. As i said, money is not really a problem. The only thing im looking for is price to perf. and longevity.

Well then it's dead simple!: Try to get by with your current CPU and then upgrade to a Zen 3 CPU once one comes out as mentioned by @MartinKweh

 


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14 minutes ago, Spurgt_Fuglen said:

Aight. As i said, money is not really a problem. The only thing im looking for is price to perf. and longevity.

In that case get a 3700X. It's by far the best value CPU on the market after the 3600. It's also why it's outselling all Intel CPUs combined according to the largest German retailer
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s-Ryzen-5-3600-sold-almost-three-times-as-many-units-than-all-of-Intel-s-chips-put-together-in-latest-Mindfactory-CPU-sales-data.459514.0.html

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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, Tundral said:

Is it being cooled properly so it can boost as much as possible and definitely not thortling? If yes then have you overclocked the CPU to try and get that little bit of extra performance out of it?

Running a H100i V2 right now. Changed thermal paste last week.

Its running @4GHz

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Just now, boggy77 said:

why? i know it's not "real" benchmarks, but I thought it gives a good indication and comparison between say, different cpus with the same gpu. but please correct me if I'm wrong.

You do better trying to find if someone has done a re look at the chips. I know games nexus did a look back video on 6th and 7th gen a month or so back. 
the issues are they aren’t well test so one could be overclocked while the other is thermal throttled 


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1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

why? i know it's not "real" benchmarks, but I thought it gives a good indication and comparison between say, different cpus with the same gpu. but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, that site is basically random numbers that don't mean anything. Same as GPU Boss, Userbenchmark and other "one-metric" comparison sites. They're SEO spam and nothing else.

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18 minutes ago, Spurgt_Fuglen said:

Its running @4GHz

Is that the max you can do with the chip and the H100i?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Tundral said:

Is that the max you can do with the chip and the H100i?

I could go higher. But at this state, with it running at 80%, i think something is wrong. 

Could try to push it to 4.3-4.

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Just now, Spurgt_Fuglen said:

Could try to push it to 4.3-4.

Push it, wait for Zen 3!

 


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