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I am planning on building a pc for my university course, cyber security, because I am in my second year using a laptop. We recently started using virtual machines but my laptop cant handle it. So I'm wanting to build a pc within the £500 budget that can run programming software, virtual machines, networking tasks smoothly. I also want to have a side of gaming and watching youtube/netflix on the side. I am happy to upgrade later down the line like around october/novermber time. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. 

Been saving up for the past 2 years. Also I am from the U.K if that makes a difference to anything.

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£109.19 @ Senetic)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£64.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.01 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Green 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£58.27 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card  (£139.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case: CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £520.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:30 GMT+0000

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor £109.19 @ Senetic
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £58.02 @ Ebuyer
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £79.98 @ Aria PC
Storage Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £35.70 @ SmartTeck.co.uk
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £36.18 @ Aria PC
Video Card Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card £139.99 @ AWD-IT
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case £31.00 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £70.47 @ Scan.co.uk
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £560.53
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:33 GMT+0000  

You can get ryzen 5 1600 AF which is pretty much the ryzen 5 2600 but 40 bucks cheaper. Look that from amazon.uk or something.

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Main PC:

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£109.19 @ Senetic)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£64.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.01 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Green 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£58.27 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card  (£139.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case: CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £520.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:30 GMT+0000

thank you

 

I didn't know whether to go with the 2600 or 2700 due to the 2700 having more cores.

would it be worth doing that and downgrading the graphics card to a 570 for the short run then purchase a 590 in november and sell the 570?

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thank you

 

I didn't know whether to go with the 2600 or 2700 due to the 2700 having more cores.

would it be worth doing that and downgrading the graphics card to a 570 for the short run then purchase a 590 in november and sell the 570?

No - the 590 is an overclocked 580. And if you want a CPU upgrade, look at the 3600, not the 2700. Zen 2 always over Zen 1 or Zen+

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2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor £109.19 @ Senetic
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £58.02 @ Ebuyer
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £79.98 @ Aria PC
Storage Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £35.70 @ SmartTeck.co.uk
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £36.18 @ Aria PC
Video Card Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card £139.99 @ AWD-IT
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case £31.00 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £70.47 @ Scan.co.uk
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £560.53
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:33 GMT+0000  

You can get ryzen 5 1600 AF which is pretty much the ryzen 5 2600 but 40 bucks cheaper. Look that from amazon.uk or something.

see the 4gb gpu whats different from that compared to the 8gb version?

 

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see the 4gb gpu whats different from that compared to the 8gb version?

 

thank you

Only memory capacity. If you can afford it, get an 8GB model. Else, 4GB is fine for medium-demanding games.

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

No - the 590 is an overclocked 580. And if you want a CPU upgrade, look at the 3600, not the 2700. Zen 2 always over Zen 1 or Zen+

ah okay. thank you

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Only memory capacity. If you can afford it, get an 8GB model. Else, 4GB is fine for medium-demanding games.

fair enough. thank you. ill save these builds. should hopefully be ordering soon

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1 minute ago, mccluregamer447 said:

ah okay. thank you

If you want a faster CPU now, I'd do the following. The 3600X comes with the larger Spire cooler - means it will be cooler and quieter during heavy loads.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.81 @ Senetic)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£64.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.01 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Green 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£58.27 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  (£119.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £582.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:41 GMT+0000

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3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

If you want a faster CPU now, I'd do the following. The 3600X comes with the larger Spire cooler - means it will be cooler and quieter during heavy loads.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.81 @ Senetic)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£64.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.01 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Green 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£58.27 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  (£119.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £582.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:41 GMT+0000

okay, ill keep that in mind. I reckon i could get the extra money for one of these builds within the next 2 months. no rush to building it but I'm looking forward to it

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4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

If you want a faster CPU now, I'd do the following. The 3600X comes with the larger Spire cooler - means it will be cooler and quieter during heavy loads.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.81 @ Senetic)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£64.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.01 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Green 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£58.27 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  (£119.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £582.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-28 15:41 GMT+0000

I would say it's better to get a 3600 and a cheap aftermarket cooler than a 3600X. The Spire cooler is really not much quieter, especially compared to a Hyper 212 or similar, which is near silent.

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okay, ill keep that in mind. I reckon i could get the extra money for one of these builds within the next 2 months. no rush to building it but I'm looking forward to it

Just make sure to ask the store to update the BIOS on the B450 boards so that you don't have to do it yourself by requesting a BIOS kit from AMD. Saves you trouble.

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Just now, Grabhanem said:

I would say it's better to get a 3600 and a cheap aftermarket cooler than a 3600X. The Spire cooler is really not much quieter, especially compared to a Hyper 212 or similar, which is near silent.

While true, the 3600X does have more headroom for XFR2 and Precision Boost. Though yeah, a 3600 and an Arctic eSports 34 is probably going to be better value

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