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RTX 2080ti yeilding poor FPS

SOLVED!!!!

 

I don't know exactly what bit was causing the issue.

 

However I drained the loop

 

Removed water block.

 

Reapplied new thermal pads.

 

Reapplied thermal paste.

 

Change the loop fluid.

 

Gains were huge:http://www.3dmark.com/spy/11196236

 

60% performance gain!!! (or 60% loss from something I did badly during the build)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

HI All,

 

I have a build that is causing sub 60 fps on most games and as low as 30fps in others.

 

I do have a predator x35 and I don't expect 200fps but I was expecting more from a 2080ti.

 

my 3d mark score also seems really low http://www.3dmark.com/spy/11188396

 

I have clean installed windows twice and took the whole system apart.

 

still no look.

 

what would you suggest to narrow down the bottleneck? 

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Hello,

 

3 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

what would you suggest to narrow down the bottleneck? 

The whole PC specs for starters.

 

Did you install the drivers ? Is the monitor plugged to the GPU and not the motherboard ?


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its a pretty high end system with a 9900K and 16Gigs of RAM on a ITX Z390 board.

that should definitely not be bottlenecking the RTX 2080Ti.

 

as the post above mentioned, did you install the drivers?


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Posted · Original PosterOP

PU : I9-9900k

CPU cooler : Custom water loop EK Block

GPU : RTX2080ti (pny vendor) Water cooled EK Block

Motherboard : ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-I GAMING

RAM : 32GB Corsair DDR4 @ 2,138 MHz

SSD : Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2

PSU : Corsair HX1200i

 

Temps do not exceed around 65 degrees under full load.

 

Drivers installed, display port cable to GPU

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2 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

RAM : 32GB Corsair DDR4 @ 2,138 MHz

MT/s or MHz ? If it's MHz it's good, if it's MT/s it's pretty low.


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3 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

Mhz I just took that from the 3Dmark link http://www.3dmark.com/spy/11188396

Is your GPU overclock ? Try to run it stock and do another benchmark.


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1 minute ago, JordanLindsay said:

Would a GPU riser cable cause a bottleneck to this extent?

No it shouldn't, I had one with my 1080Ti and I didn't lose any performance (margin of 1%).

 

Nice build :D 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Meganter said:

Is your GPU overclock ? Try to run it stock and do another benchmark.

no stock its a pny card that would have had a slightly higher clock than reference 

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2 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

no stock its a pny card that would have had a slightly higher clock than reference 

I'm afraid I can't help you more than that then :(


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17 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

its a pretty high end system with a 9900K and 16Gigs of RAM on a ITX Z390 board.

that should definitely not be bottlenecking the RTX 2080Ti.

 

as the post above mentioned, did you install the drivers?

yes drivers are installed, RAM is actually 32GB

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10 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

no stock its a pny card that would have had a slightly higher clock than reference 

Your graphic score is less than half of what my slow(EVGA XC) 2080 ti(16040)does so something is up. A water cooled card should do about 16250.

 

Run MSI Afterburner and see if the card is reaching its power limit.  At stock that would be 100%.   

Also make sure that it is not stuck at 1350mhz.  This is a none bug.

 

Your CPU score looks fine. My 5gz 6 cores do around 8000.

 


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7 minutes ago, jones177 said:

Your graphic score is less than half of what my slow(EVGA XC) 2080 ti(16040)does so something is up. A water cooled card should do about 16250.

 

Run MSI Afterburner and see if the card is reaching its power limit.  At stock that would be 100%.   

Also make sure that it is not stuck at 1350mhz.  This is a none bug.

 

Your CPU score looks fine. My 5gz 6 cores do around 8000.

 

I know my old gtx1080 had a better score 

 

Power limit is set to 100%

 

it shows at 1350mhz, how would I know if its ‘stuck’ at this?

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1 hour ago, JordanLindsay said:

I have a build that is causing sub 60 fps on most games and as low as 30fps in others.

What games? Also, please play one of those games for 15-20 minutes with HWMonitor running in the background (don't just load the title screen, actually play them), then share a screenshot of the results. If you can't get them all in one screenshot, feel free to post multiple ones.


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7 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

I know my old gtx1080 had a better score 

 

Power limit is set to 100%

 

it shows at 1350mhz, how would I know if its ‘stuck’ at this?

Run Heaven in a window at 1080p extreme with MSI afterburner running. If the card does not go over 1350mhz RMA it.

 

Also look at the graph that is called power% on afterburner and see if it reaches 100%.  It has been reported on the EVGA forums that some cards get stuck at a lower percentage. This can survive a reboot and switching the computer off then on gets it back to normal. My FTW3 Ultra has done this 3 time since I bought it.

 


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RIG#2 CPU: Intel i7 8086k | Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero | RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 ti FTW3 ULTRA | PSU: Corsair RMx1000W | Case: Cooler Master HAF X | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD#1: Crucial MX300 2.5" 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV  

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2 minutes ago, jones177 said:

Run Heaven in a window at 1080p extreme with MSI afterburner running. If the card does not go over 1350mhz RMA it.

 

Also look at the graph that is called power% on afterburner and see if it reaches 100%.  It has been reported on the EVGA forums that some cards get stuck at a lower percentage. This can survive a reboot and switching the computer off then on gets it back to normal. My FTW3 Ultra has done this 3 time since I bought it.

 

See attached it does increase 

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28 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

What games? Also, please play one of those games for 15-20 minutes with HWMonitor running in the background (don't just load the title screen, actually play them), then share a screenshot of the results. If you can't get them all in one screenshot, feel free to post multiple ones.

Played gta v for 20 mins using Nvidia optimal settings for graphics, got 20-30fps in the hills, 40-50 in the city

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1 hour ago, JordanLindsay said:

Would a GPU riser cable cause a bottleneck to this extent? 

Just to double check this point, check GPU-Z while running a game. See what the actual PCIe connection speed/lanes are. Note it is normal to throttle down while not under load, so it has to be doing something representative.


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Gaming system: Asrock Z370 Pro4, i7-8086k stock, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 4x16GB, Asus Strix 1080Ti, Fractal Edison 550W PSU, GameMax Silent, Optane 900p 280GB, Crucial MX200 1TB, Sandisk 960GB, Acer Predator XB241YU 1440p 144Hz G-sync

Gaming system 2: Asus X299 TUF mark 2, 7920X, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance RGB 8x8GB, Gigabyte RTX 2070, Corsair HX1000i, Gamemax Abyss, Samsung 960 Evo 512GB, LG OLED55B9PLA

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11 minutes ago, porina said:

Just to double check this point, check GPU-Z while running a game. See what the actual PCIe connection speed/lanes are. Note it is normal to throttle down while not under load, so it has to be doing something representative.

see attached, sorry I'm not sure what stat you needed 

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2 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

see attached, sorry I'm not sure what stat you needed 

It is running PCIe 16x 3.0 so that's good. 


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Gaming system: Asrock Z370 Pro4, i7-8086k stock, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 4x16GB, Asus Strix 1080Ti, Fractal Edison 550W PSU, GameMax Silent, Optane 900p 280GB, Crucial MX200 1TB, Sandisk 960GB, Acer Predator XB241YU 1440p 144Hz G-sync

Gaming system 2: Asus X299 TUF mark 2, 7920X, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance RGB 8x8GB, Gigabyte RTX 2070, Corsair HX1000i, Gamemax Abyss, Samsung 960 Evo 512GB, LG OLED55B9PLA

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Gaming laptop: Asus FX503VD, i5-7300HQ, 2x8GB DDR4, GTX 1050, Sandisk 256GB + 480GB SSD

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35 minutes ago, JordanLindsay said:

Played gta v for 20 mins using Nvidia optimal settings for graphics, got 20-30fps in the hills, 40-50 in the city

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The only thing that jumped out at me was that the memory isn't downclocking at any point, which seems strange.   Gaming with a 9900k isn't optimal of course, especially with an older title like GTA V (too many threads hurts performance), but not to the amount your seeing.

 

My guess is that you're trying to play with the Nvidia recommended settings.  In my experience, those are terrible, especially if you want decent frame rates.  Try setting everything manually, especially the resolution.  I wouldn't be surprised if it set it to 8K or something ridiculous.


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1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

The only thing that jumped out at me was that the memory isn't downclocking at any point, which seems strange.   Gaming with a 9900k isn't optimal of course, especially with an older title like GTA V (too many threads hurts performance), but not to the amount your seeing.

 

My guess is that you're trying to play with the Nvidia recommended settings.  In my experience, those are terrible, especially if you want decent frame rates.  Try setting everything manually, especially the resolution.  I wouldn't be surprised if it set it to 8K or something ridiculous.

Regardless of GTA, the main post was about the 3D mark score being so low. (And I have turned off g sync for that) 

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1 minute ago, JordanLindsay said:

Regardless of GTA, the main post was about the 3D mark score being so low. (And I have turned off g sync for that) 

Real world performance is generally what people actually care about, not a synthetic score that has very little meaning.

 

Anyway, my guess is a bad component on the GPU, as your memory isn't scaling properly.


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