What should I upgrade?

[Burnedice25]

Hey guys! My build is as follows:

 

i7 3770 

GTX 1050 Ti (overclocked to the same performance as a 1070)

8 GB of DDR3 

 

first of, how long should this build last me? It’s starting to chug a bit with some games (mainly CPU bound ones) but I want to see if if I can resolve that with some more RAM as I can’t really upgrade my CPU as it is the best CPU I can get for that socket. And I really don’t feel like a full re-build unless I’m gonna get a massive boost in performance 

 

my GPU is good enough for me but what would you recommend as a upgrade anyway.

 

i would really like to keep it under $200, for both upgrades. 

 

Cheers

[5x5]

You GPU needs an upgrade. Even with LN2 a 1050 To cannot reach even a 1060 3G, let alone a 1070. Get a 5600 XT or 2060 and a second hand 8GB RAM for a total of 16

[Burnedice25]

4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

You GPU needs an upgrade. Even with LN2 a 1050 To cannot reach even a 1060 3G, let alone a 1070. Get a 5600 XT or 2060 and a second hand 8GB RAM for a total of 16

i beg to differ, my 1050 ti runs perfect, high settings 1440p at 60 fps (give or take a little depending on the game)

 

Any suggestions for a new CPU/MOBO bundle for cheap that will perform better than what i have?

[5x5]

10 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

i beg to differ, my 1050 ti runs perfect, high settings 1440p at 60 fps (give or take a little depending on the game)

 

Any suggestions for a new CPU/MOBO bundle for cheap that will perform better than what i have?

Ryzen 5 1600AF (it's basically a cheaper 2600) and a B450 Pro4 or Steel Legend from ASRock.

 

And a GPU. A 1050 To needs to be running at 4000MHz core and 16000MHz memory to even match a 1060 man...

[HanZie82]

10 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

i beg to differ, my 1050 ti runs perfect, high settings 1440p at 60 fps (give or take a little depending on the game)

 

Any suggestions for a new CPU/MOBO bundle for cheap that will perform better than what i have?

No, because as @5x5 said the GPU is the most bottlenecking thing at the moment.
And that you think the 1050Ti is running as a 1070 doesn't make it true. As without evidence most if not all people will think you talk nonsense.

dont mean to insult, just being honest and direct.

[ErA.l]

14 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

Any suggestions for a new CPU/MOBO bundle for cheap that will perform better than what i have?

Any current gen CPU/Mobo will need DDR4 RAM, so keep that in mind. What's your budget?

[Burnedice25]

Just now, ErA.l said:

Any current gen CPU/Mono will need DDR4 RAM, so keep that in mind. What's your budget?

$200 AUD.

 

Would a 4790K do better? I'm happy to overclock quite a bit

[5x5]

14 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

$200 AUD.

 

Would a 4790K do better? I'm happy to overclock quite a bit

That's not an upgrade at all. It's almost the same performance as your current CPU.

[Burnedice25]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

That's not an upgrade at all. It's almost the same performance as your current CPU.

its a 20% boost stock, and ill overclock it another 15% even. 

 

plus the Devil's Canyon is a bit sentimental to me, since it was my first ever PC part i saw when i was getting into PC modding when i was only a kid (i know it's silly, dont mind me lol)

 

what would you reccomend?

[jaslion]

16 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

$200 AUD.

 

Would a 4790K do better? I'm happy to overclock quite a bit

Get a new gpu. Your 1050 is holding your cpu back. A 3770 can easily run a gtx 1660 or rx 5600xt. What you are claiming that your 1050 is running as good as a 1070 is nonsense. The 1070 is like 3x as powerfull as that card.

[Oswin]

44 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

It’s starting to chug a bit with some games (mainly CPU bound ones)

just to clarify, what are these "cpu bound" games that you are playing?

[Burnedice25]

1 minute ago, Oswin said:

just to clarify, what are these "cpu bound" games that you are playing?

I play alot of strategy games and very technical games.

 

like I play Planetary Annihilation, 0AD, Total Warfare (AKA games with either alot of troops running around or a lot of physics)

Also Tekkit (heavily modded minecraft) Citie's skylines, and the sort

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

its a 20% boost stock, and ill overclock it another 15% even. 

 

plus the Devil's Canyon is a bit sentimental to me, since it was my first ever PC part i saw when i was getting into PC modding when i was only a kid (i know it's silly, dont mind me lol)

 

what would you reccomend?

That's still won't cover the 300% difference between a 1050 Ti and 1070, my friend.

 

I told ya - Ryzen 5 1600AF (basically a cheap 2600) and a B450 board.

[Burnedice25]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

That's still won't cover the 300% difference between a 1050 Ti and 1070, my friend.

 

I told ya - Ryzen 5 1600AF (basically a cheap 2600) and a B450 board.

we can look at specs all we want, but the 1070 can play the same games, at the same settings, at the same framerates my card can. I dont know how to explain it, it just does.

 

And for the games i play, which only use my CPU predominately, i think the 4790K will be a better choice for me 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

we can look at specs all we want, but the 1070 can play the same games, at the same settings, at the same framerates my card can. I dont know how to explain it, it just does.

 

And for the games i play, which only use my CPU predominately, i think the 4790K will be a better choice for me 

The 4790K is a minimal difference. It's almost the same core design as the 3770K - the primary difference between Ivy Bridge and Haswell is the iGPU and decoder. The CPU is virtually the same. Buying a 4790K is a waste of money.

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

we can look at specs all we want, but the 1070 can play the same games, at the same settings, at the same framerates my card can. I dont know how to explain it, it just does.

 

And for the games i play, which only use my CPU predominately, i think the 4790K will be a better choice for me 

Do not get a 4790k. That cpu is basically the same performance and the money you'd invest in it + a board would be as much as getting a far better ryzen setup.

[5x5]

3 minutes ago, Burnedice25 said:

we can look at specs all we want, but the 1070 can play the same games, at the same settings, at the same framerates my card can. I dont know how to explain it, it just does.

 

And for the games i play, which only use my CPU predominately, i think the 4790K will be a better choice for me 

And it's not comparing specs - it's comparing reality to fiction. A 1050 Ti is INcapable of reaching even an RX 470. Matching a 1070 is NOT possible.

[Burnedice25]

Just now, 5x5 said:

The 4790K is a minimal difference. It's almost the same core design as the 3770K - the primary difference between Ivy Bridge and Haswell is the iGPU and decoder. The CPU is virtually the same. Buying a 4790K is a waste of money.

the much higher clocks and cache will make all the difference in the games i play. It's virtually a 35% performance boost

[jaslion]

Just now, Burnedice25 said:

the much higher clocks and cache will make all the difference in the games i play. It's virtually a 35% performance boost

It will help but it's old and not worth investing into. You can get for the same price something new that beats a oc'd 4790k.

[5x5]

Just now, Burnedice25 said:

the much higher clocks and cache will make all the difference in the games i play. It's virtually a 35% performance boost

What kind of math are you doing here? The cache is the same, the maximum theoretical clockspeed that can be achieved with both is 4.6-4.7 on the 3770K and 4.7 on the 4790K. It's the SAME.

[Burnedice25]

Just now, 5x5 said:

And it's not comparing specs - it's comparing reality to fiction. A 1050 Ti is INcapable of reaching even an RX 470. Matching a 1070 is NOT possible.

as much as i would agree with you, i've seen my card perform things it really shouldnt. again, i cant explain it, im happy to provide proof.

[5x5]

Just now, Burnedice25 said:

as much as i would agree with you, i've seen my card perform things it really shouldnt. again, i cant explain it, im happy to provide proof.

Please do so - provide a video of you running Doom Eternal at 1440p or a similar demanding game. Or maybe running 8x MSAA in Withcer 3. Or Hairworks. Or whatever. It's not possible.

[Burnedice25]

Just now, 5x5 said:

What kind of math are you doing here? The cache is the same, the maximum theoretical clockspeed that can be achieved with both is 4.6-4.7 on the 3770K and 4.7 on the 4790K. It's the SAME.

i dont have a 3770k, i have a stock 3770, and i only want to do a cheap upgrade, so this will be an in between. It'll provide way better performance for me and the games i play  

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Burnedice25 said:

i dont have a 3770k, i have a stock 3770, and i only want to do a cheap upgrade, so this will be an in between. It'll provide way better performance for me and the games i play  

The difference is still less than 20% - you have to clock the 4790K over 5GHz in order to see a "35% increase" - that's not in the realm of possibility. Get a Ryzen 5 if you want a new CPU. Or do the smart thing and upgrade the GPU

[jaslion]

Just now, Burnedice25 said:

i dont have a 3770k, i have a stock 3770, and i only want to do a cheap upgrade, so this will be an in between. It'll provide way better performance for me and the games i play  

It's not an inbetween when you need to get a new motherboard that allows overclocking (and those are stupid expensive because they are rare) and a 4790k which is also easily over 100$ and not worth the price.

 

Again get a ryzen 2600, 1600af or the best choice a 3600 and a b450 board + some ram. It will be better than anything a 4790k could ever dream of doing.