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should I wait for i9 10900k?

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Wait but for the 4700X and 4900X which are due in a few months. Get yourself a good Zen3 CPU and don't bother with the 9900K - an old and hot mess

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do you need a cpu now, or is your current system still good enough to drag it out until the next round of cpu releases?

 

if your current rig is literally not holding together anymore.. get whatever is available now, if your current rig does just fine, there's no sense in upgrading.

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why consider 9900k at all? it's only better than 3700x/3900x in some games due to optimisation and higher frequency, but both ryzens are cheaper and the 3900x has higher core count and thread count.

 

like what @manikyathsaid, get a 3700x/3900x if your rig is literally unbearable to play on or something. if you can wait, then ryzen 4000/intel 10th gen could be a good choice, but nothing certain until we see proper third party benchmarks


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If you want yourself a nice 550$ 300W room heater (and have an appropriate cooling system for it), yeah, it's good, otherwise i'd rather wait for Zen 3.


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Go for the 9900k, it's an absolute beast, but you need a top air/water cooler for it.


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1 hour ago, boey said:

why consider 9900k at all? it's only better than 3700x/3900x in some games due to optimisation and higher frequency, but both ryzens are cheaper and the 3900x has higher core count and thread count.

 

like what @manikyathsaid, get a 3700x/3900x if your rig is literally unbearable to play on or something. if you can wait, then ryzen 4000/intel 10th gen could be a good choice, but nothing certain until we see proper third party benchmarks

There are actually a few reasons to consider a 9900k at least today. It really depends what you do with your PC. 

 

For strictly gamers a 9900k is the best CPU on the market and it isn't really close in 2020 (how long that lasts though is a different question as games start using more cores). Especially in older titles such as simulation games (iRacing for example) that only use 3 cores at the most. Even in newer games, the majority of games don't use more than 8 cores very often. 

 

I'm not sure that's enough to justify it's insanely high price. However, on the other hand AMD chips have nearly no resale value in the future while Intel chips hold their value incredibly well. A Ryzen 1800x is about $150-160 on eBay used. Meanwhile, an i7 7700k used on eBay is $250+ still. 

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I would wait for 10900k because it will probably have 10/20 at 5ghz and it will be released soon. You gotta have good cooling, keep that in mind. Water would be recommended.

Also, in time 4900x will be released, so I would suggest you to closely check all benchmarks and prices before buying

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5 hours ago, toasty99 said:

There are actually a few reasons to consider a 9900k at least today. It really depends what you do with your PC. 

 

For strictly gamers a 9900k is the best CPU on the market and it isn't really close in 2020 (how long that lasts though is a different question as games start using more cores). Especially in older titles such as simulation games (iRacing for example) that only use 3 cores at the most. Even in newer games, the majority of games don't use more than 8 cores very often. 

 

I'm not sure that's enough to justify it's insanely high price. However, on the other hand AMD chips have nearly no resale value in the future while Intel chips hold their value incredibly well. A Ryzen 1800x is about $150-160 on eBay used. Meanwhile, an i7 7700k used on eBay is $250+ still. 

Yeah, personally wouldn't get an Intel CPU unless it specifically does better in what I do and I have the money to spend(which is a pretty specific situation)

 

Also, maybe the resale value thing is because IPC from like 7th gen onwards is more or less the same? the 7700k is still very capable today in gaming(and so is pretty much every i5 and i7 from like the 2nd gen onwards), whereas AMD has come a long way from 1st gen in terms of memory compatibility, frequency, IPC, core count etc. 


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-HOW TO BUILD A PC STEP BY STEP

-WHAT TO DO FIRST WITH A BRAND NEW BUILD

-HOW TO SEE PC UTILISATION IN GAME(ie CPU usage, GPU temps, CPU temps etc.)

-EASIEST WAY TO OVERCLOCK RAM ON RYZEN CPUs

 

CURRENT PC:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

CPU Cooler: Cryorig H7

Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX

RAM: 2X8 GB 3200MHz G.Skill TridentZ RGB (timings tightened to 14-17-17-30 from 16-18-18-38)

Storage: 240GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus(boot), 1TB Samsung 860 Evo, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

GPU: MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X TRIO

PSU: Corsair RM650x

OS: Windows 10 Home Unactivated

Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White

Case Fans: 9x Corsair LL120

Cables: Cablemod C-series White ModFlex Cables

 

 

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