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Is it a shame to own a low end PC?

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Posted (edited) Original PosterOP

Okay *deep breaths(am I even supposed to type dat馃)* . I am a teenage boy (from India) who did whatever he could to get into gaming (I mean high end PC gaming not playing GTA San Andreas in my current PC*which is the only gaming I do*). I did a lot of stuff , figuring out the cheapest build,posted a topic here about persuading my parents, etc.聽

And you know what none of the way of persuading my parents worked .... Until I used my own (which is scoring good grades *imma genius lol*) and the Corona virus f@漏k鈧垎 everything up......

AliExpress shipping were stopped, prices of PC parts on online stores keep increasing every 24 hour, and the PC store near my house has a few APUs and some a320 mobos and the sad thing is I can't even go there cuz their is a lockdown in the city (country actually) cuz of Covid 19,

SoOoOo(if u have read till here full then thnx but u didn't need to,u just now know about my sed lyf and why Covid 19 is a problem for gamers). As Linus once said

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PC master race is not about having the best hardware, it's about having聽 respect for the hardware you have.

Is using this PC setup for gaming a shame? (or am I a member of PCMR?)

  • CPU: core i3 3210 3.2 GHz
  • GPU: Intel hd 2500
  • RAM: 4gbx1 1333mhz
  • Mobo: some random h61 Mobo by a brand called Mercury
  • Storage-120 gb ssd and a 500gb hdd
  • PSU: some random non certified 250 watt smps by iball
  • Case: a $10 case from a brand called zebion
  • A cheap Logitech keyboard
  • A cheap mouse from a brand named lapcare
  • A 1333x768 monitor from AOC

I have much respect for it, and I played some games like

  • NFS most wanted (2005)-the first game I played on it.
  • GTA 3,Vice City,San Andreas.
  • Burnout Paradise (2008)
  • NFS hot pursuit(2010),most wanted(2012)- even tho some guys here told me it won't run but they ran at the lowest resolution and at playable fps
  • Untitled goose game
  • PUBG and COD mobile(using tencent gaming buddy)
  • Meteorite 60 seconds.
  • Etc

Edit:its been 2 months since I uploaded the topic people are still replying,its the longest running post which I made thanks to everyone who replied. I will upgrade my pc soon(just a ram upgrade) after this covid 19 gets over.

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This thread is weird to me.聽 Quit thinking about social acceptance on your PC.聽 Love you, love your PC and that's good enough.

Also me - I don't have the top end system either, and never will.聽 Its not feasible, for me and my goals.


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock,聽Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU,聽128gb Patriot聽Scorch聽NVMe聽Win 10 boot drive,聽500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.聽 DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer聽AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.聽 Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.聽 Ask me about it.聽 Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.聽 Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.聽 Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

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There's no shame in using what聽you聽enjoy.聽 It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks except聽you.聽 For example, my computer in my signature is now 13 years old.聽 I still love it, use it every day as my primary, and I have no shame in using an old 5400 based system.聽 I still manage to play modern video games (and I really need to get Doom Eternal since beating Doom 2016 on it), and you know what, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks about my computer.聽 Because it's聽my computer, not theirs.


CPU: AMD FX-8320 @ 4GHz, 4.3GHz Turbo聽RAM:HyperX Fury 32GB DDR3

GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti 4GB聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽聽OS: Windows 10/Linux

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11 minutes ago, SeAsOn3 said:

Is using this PC setup for gaming a shame? (or am I a member of PCMR?)

There is so much better things to worry about in life, than what others think of your PC.

This is coming from someone who had an ultra low end PC for the longest time.

Just play games the way you want to, that is what 'PCMR' is all about.聽聽


I apologize for the way I am. If my post seemed rude, that was not my intention. Just my ineptness in forming a nice coherent message.

"Why do we suffer a lifetime for a moment of happiness?" - Anonymous

"FuryBSD, name of your sex tape" - Alex Clark

"How long do I have to keep going on? Someone end it already"

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1 minute ago, steelo said:

you're unable to play the games you want to play, then upgrade

I am unable to play the games I want but I cannot upgrade

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Just now, SeAsOn3 said:

Wut do u mean , your signature lists 6 PC with two of them having聽 a ryzen 7

I am also 35, and have been doing this a lot longer than you.聽 Those are accumulated systems.聽 Keep it up and you two can own middle of the road equipment one day! :)


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock,聽Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU,聽128gb Patriot聽Scorch聽NVMe聽Win 10 boot drive,聽500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.聽 DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer聽AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.聽 Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.聽 Ask me about it.聽 Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.聽 Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.聽 Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

Just play games the way you want to, that is what 'PCMR' is all about.聽聽

I want to play nfs heat and plants vs zombie garden warfare but I cant

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1 minute ago, SeAsOn3 said:

I am unable to play the games I want but I cannot upgrade

Then save up and build a more capable PC and be happy with it.

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2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I am also 35, and have been doing this a lot longer than you.聽 Those are accumulated systems.聽 Keep it up and you two can own middle of the road equipment one day! :)

Thnx for the encouragement馃憤

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Just now, SeAsOn3 said:

I want to play nfs heat and plants vs zombie garden warfare but I cant

So that equates to shame? 聽

Shame would be stealing someones PC to play your games.聽 You should feel shame for that, but that didn't happen.

Relax young Padawan, enjoy your old hardware.聽 Either way, after I make a purchase on something I *want* the buyers glee quickly turns into just wanting to buy something else, so take your time.


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock,聽Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU,聽128gb Patriot聽Scorch聽NVMe聽Win 10 boot drive,聽500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.聽 DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer聽AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.聽 Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.聽 Ask me about it.聽 Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.聽 Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.聽 Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

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1 minute ago, SeAsOn3 said:

I want to play nfs heat and plants vs zombie garden warfare but I cant

Would purchasing a used RX 570 be an option? That should get you to where you need to be in order to play those games.

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1 minute ago, steelo said:

Then save up and build a more capable PC and be happy with it.

I have enough to buy one but can't due to the pandemic

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1 minute ago, steelo said:

Would purchasing a used RX 570 be an option? That should get you to where you need to be in order to play those games.

That PSU would be hard pressed, A 280w LiteOn (platinum rated) gets 100% load under my i5 3470 w/ a GTX 1060 in the system (one SSD, 1 ODD, some fans)


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock,聽Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU,聽128gb Patriot聽Scorch聽NVMe聽Win 10 boot drive,聽500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.聽 DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer聽AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.聽 Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.聽 Ask me about it.聽 Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.聽 Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.聽 Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

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Just now, SeAsOn3 said:

I have enough to buy one but can't due to the pandemic

Gotcha...Can you order one and have it delivered? Or better yet, build one! 馃槂

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1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

That PSU would be hard pressed, A 280w LiteOn (platinum rated) gets 100% load under my i5 3470 w/ a GTX 1060 in the system (one SSD, 1 ODD, some fans)

True, didn't notice the PSU...would definitely need a heftier one.

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1 minute ago, steelo said:

Would purchasing a used RX 570 be an option? That should get you to where you need to be in order to play those games.

Thnx for the suggestion and I was actually gonna buy one but due to the pandemic I can't, here's also a topic related to that

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@OP - I have ordered from Ebay, from China and received my shipments faster than ever during this COVID pandemic...just sharing my experience.聽 I expected something end of April...got it 2 weeks later for example.


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock,聽Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU,聽128gb Patriot聽Scorch聽NVMe聽Win 10 boot drive,聽500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.聽 DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer聽AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.聽 Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.聽 Ask me about it.聽 Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.聽 Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.聽 Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

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4 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

That PSU would be hard pressed, A 280w LiteOn (platinum rated) gets 100% load under my i5 3470 w/ a GTX 1060 in the system (one SSD, 1 ODD, some fans)

When I get a upgrade I'll get a new PC so I'll obviously have a nice psu

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6 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

@OP - I have ordered from Ebay, from China and received my shipments faster than ever during this COVID pandemic...just sharing my experience.聽 I expected something end of April...got it 2 weeks later for example.

Where are u from?

Actually if I order聽 the custom department of my country will hold as it comes from China聽

Many toy shops have been shut down here cuz they got their stufffrom China

They'll leave it only if I bribe them

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Hell no! Check out my specs, she's a dream come true. Doesn't matter how "low end" she is!


Trash beauty:

CPU: Xeon X5550

GPU: RX 570 4GB (defective)

SSD: Fattydove Racing 240GB

HDD: WD Blue 320GB

Motherboard: HP Z400

Ram:聽6x2GB DDR3 1066

PSU: Corsair TX650

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Just now, Donut Dan said:

Hell no! check out my specs, she's a dream come true. Doesn't matter how "low end" she is!

At least you have dedicated graphics 馃槄

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2 minutes ago, SeAsOn3 said:

At least you have dedicated graphics 馃槄

Looks like you have a decent upgrade path. The proverbial "just mow some lawns" advice that American youths take to may not be applicable for yourself, but you could certainly find some other revenue stream, optimistically as an assistant in some computer shop if you're lucky. Your i3 can be upgraded to an i7-3770, you can toss 4GB of ram more into it, and with a proper PSU, just about any graphics card becomes a good addition to your rig.

And most importantly,聽you have an SSD!


Trash beauty:

CPU: Xeon X5550

GPU: RX 570 4GB (defective)

SSD: Fattydove Racing 240GB

HDD: WD Blue 320GB

Motherboard: HP Z400

Ram:聽6x2GB DDR3 1066

PSU: Corsair TX650

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1 hour ago, Donut Dan said:

Looks like you have a decent upgrade path. The proverbial "just mow some lawns" advice that American youths take to may not be applicable for yourself, but you could certainly find some other revenue stream, optimistically as an assistant in some computer shop if you're lucky. Your i3 can be upgraded to an i7-3770, you can toss 4GB of ram more into it, and with a proper PSU, just about any graphics card becomes a good addition to your rig.

And most importantly,聽you have an SSD!

I forgot to mention that it's my dad's PC and I use it as he stays abroad, I have another h61 Mobo on which I planned to put a Xeon e3 1230 and a rx 570 but Covid19 fakd it.

I can't even go outside now as there's a curfew, the cops are arresting people

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