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Sgt.Mak

Ryzen 5 1600 to 3600?

2 minutes ago, Sgt.Mak said:

 

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I don't have much knowledge in ram oc'ing, If you think its possible I will learn and try.

 

Also my motherboard is ASUS Prime B450-K

 

 

If you don't have any interesting in waiting for Ryzen 4000 just grab it

 

Otherwise I'd wait and buy Ryzen 4000 with whatever new memory speed it supports, might be a 20-25% jump at best rather than a 15% jump or something.

 

Also ya know, global pandemic and all, might need to hold onto the cash

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Heyo,

 

I have a desktop back home with a R5 1600 and a 1070ti.

was wondering if I should get the 3600 or idk I'm just hoping to get 144fps+ on games like Apex legends, COD warzone and other competitive shooters.

 

currently csgo run great at around 230fps+ but apex legends on low 1080p runs around 100fps. with streaming it goes to 80 fps. Sucks cause my panel is 144hz.

And I play them very competitively in higher ranks.

 

just want someone to say "yes that purchase makes sense".

 

Thanks,

Mak.

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3 minutes ago, Sgt.Mak said:

Heyo,

The 3600 is really cheap, but what's your RAM speed/timings?


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Ram speed matters too, do you have decent memory?


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This purchase makes sense as long as your motherboard has a BIOS update for Zen 2 products. That's something you should check first. Also keep in mind that upgrading could remove the ability to use your 1600 with that motherboard.

 

On a side note, the Zen 3 series is likely only a few months away. You might want to wait for that.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Fasauceome said:

Ram speed matters too, do you have decent memory?

 

Just now, Streetguru said:

The 3600 is really cheap, but what's your RAM speed/timings?

VENGEANCE® LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Red LED.

 

I don't have much knowledge in ram oc'ing, If you think its possible I will learn and try.

 

Also my motherboard is ASUS Prime B450-K

 

 

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3 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

This purchase makes sense as long as your motherboard has a BIOS update for Zen 2 products. That's something you should check first. Also keep in mind that upgrading could remove the ability to use your 1600 with that motherboard.

 

On a side note, the Zen 3 series is likely only a few months away. You might want to wait for that.

I was planning on doing that as I helped a friend build a 2700x RTX 2070 super build for streaming etc. 

But with the virus and all my uni is closed like many in the UK, so I will be flying home to Dubai was wondering if it was worth to get a CPU here for £20 cheaper than in Dubai.

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2 minutes ago, Sgt.Mak said:

I don't have much knowledge in ram oc'ing, If you think its possible I will learn and try.

 

Also my motherboard is ASUS Prime B450-K

You could certainly look up a tutorial for that motherboard, should be quite easy


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, Sgt.Mak said:

 

VENGEANCE® LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Red LED.

 

I don't have much knowledge in ram oc'ing, If you think its possible I will learn and try.

 

Also my motherboard is ASUS Prime B450-K

 

 

If you don't have any interesting in waiting for Ryzen 4000 just grab it

 

Otherwise I'd wait and buy Ryzen 4000 with whatever new memory speed it supports, might be a 20-25% jump at best rather than a 15% jump or something.

 

Also ya know, global pandemic and all, might need to hold onto the cash


I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

If you don't have any interesting in waiting for Ryzen 4000 just grab it

 

Otherwise I'd wait and buy Ryzen 4000 with whatever new memory speed it supports, might be a 20-25% jump at best rather than a 15% jump or something.

 

Also ya know, global pandemic and all, might need to hold onto the cash

Yea I guess waiting a bit longer for a more powerful cpu to come out and building a new rig is the best choice.

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At this point you might as well wait for Ryzen 4000.

On top of that, you're likely to see more of an FPS improvement from a better video card.

All depends on what your budget is.


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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

On top of that, you're likely to see more of an FPS improvement from a better video card.

Not with a Ryzen 5 1600 for now though.


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While you are within the memory controllers spec for your CPU - I push Zen @ 3600mhz and the difference in gaming between 2666mhz and 3600mhz frequency, depending on the title:

 

With CPU bound games, increased and tighter FPS margins 

With non CPU bound games, tighter FPS magins.  The lows were much higher.

 

Just a thought if you want to eek out that 1600 you could OC that and the RAM to say 3200mhz and see a substantial FPS boost.

 

EDIT - with my OC on my 1700 I completely smash the 3600 in multicore workloads (of course) and am close enough in IPC that I wont be upgrading (maybe...cause I wanna play with it)


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