Leaking before the online show - A14 + powerbeats 4 found

[williamcll]

As the WWDC has switched to an online stream, benchmarks for the upcoming TSMC 5nm Apple A14 has been found by IceUniverse, showing a new record for mobile processors. If anyone can find the geekbench 5 link for me that would be great.

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The most stable upgrade of the iPhone 12 series in 2020 is the A14 processor. This time, TSMC’s 5nm process will be used. Now it is reported that the running score of the A14 processor has been exposed. The frequency stack has reached 3.1GHz. The GK5 has a single core of 1658 points and a multicore of 4612 points. Although the 3GHz ARM processor has been advertised since the 20nm node, it has been tested. The frequency of the mass-produced mobile phone SoC has never exceeded 3GHz. The Apple A14 may become the first ARM mobile processor to officially exceed 3GHz. According to the @IceUniverse, it is suspected that the GeekBench 4 running score of Apple A14 has appeared, and the frequency has reached 3.1GHz, which is 400MHz higher than the current A13’s 2.7GHz.

Around the same time, new powerbeats have been found in Walmart in New York, specs matches previous leaks.

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Apple has been readying new Powerbeats 4 for a few weeks now; we have seen the new Powerbeats hit the FCC and plenty of spec leaks. That hasn’t stopped a Walmart store from selling them. If you want near-undeniable evidence that this product is about to be officially announced, then here you are. Reader Eddie spotted the redesigned Powerbeats in new packaging for sale in his local Walmart at Rochester, New York, , with the rumored red, white and black color options on display. The product photography shows the tweaked design of the earphones. The packaging clearly boasts 15 hours of battery life, which lines up with the previously reported spec sheet. The product is listed as $149, although we aren’t sure if that is final official pricing. The Powerbeats 3 earphones retail for $199, so that would technically mean a $50 price cut for the new models if accurate, but have regularly been discounted below $100 for a while now. Powerbeats 4 are expected to feature longer 15 hour battery life thanks to the use of the Apple H1 chip, which would also enable ‘Hey Siri’ support, Announce Messages with Siri, and other features like lower latency. It’s not clear why these went on sale early at least as this store, although with the unfortunate global environment as it is, retailer stocking mistakes are probably to be expected. Nevertheless, we are still waiting for Apple to officially announce these new headphones.

Source:https://www.weibo.com/5673255066/IyIn5m8L3?from=page_1005055673255066_profile

https://9to5mac.com/2020/03/15/new-powerbeats-walmart/

Thoughts: A hexa core 3.1 Ghz processor is pretty impressive, already coming close to a few desktop processors. I wonder what will qualcomm have to offer to compete.

[DrMacintosh]

As Tally Ho Tech would say......woof! That’s some impressive performance. 

[Guest]

I sorta feel like it's all a bit unnecessary now that we can do what we want on the phone with it being super snappy. Let's get desktop mode or something for iOS - USB-C support for monitor out? If a low-end MacBook in the future would be ARM-based, this would be a super-cool idea to plug in your iPhone and have it be a mini mac.

[SenKa]

~20% better single core, and ~25% better multicore over my 11 pro max...

 

nice.

[ARikozuM]

Now, if only batteries were recyclable AND removable.

 

inb4 people complain that their 10yo device is STILL getting updates... #1stWorldProblems

[Jotoco]

In my opinion all this processing power is lost on phones. I personally can't find a way or usefulness for such beastly processing. 

 

I can dig it I'm am iPad pro or something, but phones? 

[bcredeur97]

man this thing is almost 50% faster than the A11 in my iPhone X.

Is my iPhone X slow? no.

But still is impressive that you can have that much power in the palm of your hand. This makes me excited for what will be done with 5nm process technology for higher power chips (like desktop chips). Maybe I'll finally get off of Sandy Bridge E

[captain_to_fire]

40 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Now, if only batteries were recyclable AND removable.

Not sure if you can have IP68 water & dust resistance with removable batteries. Tbh as someone living in the tropics where the seasons are just wet and dry, I’d pick water resistance over removable batteries. 

[Fnige]

29 minutes ago, captain_to_fire said:

Not sure if you can have IP68 water & dust resistance with removable batteries. Tbh as someone living in the tropics where the seasons are just wet and dry, I’d pick water resistance over removable batteries. 

Definitely possible to have both 

[captain_to_fire]

2 hours ago, SlimyPython said:

Definitely possible to have both 

I don't like the band-aid appearance of the Galaxy S5, much less the awful TouchWiz interface that thankfully, Samsung abandoned

[RedRound2]

15 hours ago, williamcll said:

I wonder what will qualcomm have to offer to compete.

Absolutely nothing. They've lagged behind A series processors by a year performance wise for the past couple of years and this isn't going to change anything. And honeslty, they have nothing to worry about as long as they have a monopolistic hold on in the non-apple market

 

And for other who are saying that processors are powerful enough. No I don't think Apple expects you to start encoding files with your new iPhones. The added processor power is necessary to bolster new and heavier software down the line with multitudes more of fuctionality, than what we have now. Sure, your phones don't feel faster, but it's only because it's running a much more functionaly capable code. For concrete examples, things like AR, ML and AI assisted features, like your phone camera (which is a huge resource hog btw) will defnitely benefit from this

[RedRound2]

6 hours ago, SlimyPython said:

Definitely possible to have both 

The water seals would wear out much faster if it indeed was user removable. And in a off chance water does get in, shorting the battery would be a disastrous thing. Besides, I don't even the see the point of user removable battery as power banks, universal chargers (type-c, microusb and lightning) and fast chargers have almost made this "feature" superfluous

[Engineer.AI]

What a waste! Such high processing power, lost on folks who merely use it for Snapchat and TikTok. Apple phones normally aren't that well integrated with third party software, like games, etc. This is a marketing ploy of the nth degree.
About Powerbeats 4 - same! how did these manifest themselves into this one shelf on Costco/ Walmart, all of a sudden, out of nowhere?!
~Vibhor Tyagi (Techie at Engineer.AI)

[mr moose]

17 minutes ago, RedRound2 said:

The water seals would wear out much faster if it indeed was user removable. And in a off chance water does get in, shorting the battery would be a disastrous thing. Besides, I don't even the see the point of user removable battery as power banks, universal chargers (type-c, microusb and lightning) and fast chargers have almost made this "feature" superfluous

Give me a second battery over a battery bank and cable any time.  Who wants to spend an hour with their phone tied to a battery bank while they are on the go when then can carry a second battery much easier?   There is nothing worse than trying to use your phone on a train or bus while it is connected to a battery bank.  

[ne0tic]

The performance of the A14 chip is not going to be used by most people, but it is still welcome since it will help the phone run smooth in the long run for apps like games in a few years. It will definitely help for video editing as well (if anyone even does that on their phone) and for gaming, especially if the phone will be able to hit 120FPS in games for the rumored 120Hz. Also, I would guess that the chip is more efficient as well so it will help the battery life too! 

[RedRound2]

51 minutes ago, Engineer.AI said:

What a waste! Such high processing power, lost on folks who merely use it for Snapchat and TikTok. Apple phones normally aren't that well integrated with third party software, like games, etc. This is a marketing ploy of the nth degree.
About Powerbeats 4 - same! how did these manifest themselves into this one shelf on Costco/ Walmart, all of a sudden, out of nowhere?!
~Vibhor Tyagi (Techie at Engineer.AI)

That's just a gross generalization.

 

And even in those scearios, cameras do play a role, especially with filters and masks these days. So, I guess you have to eat your own words?

[WkdPaul]

* thread unlocked and cleaned *

 

If you're unable, or unwilling to reply without insulting others, then please don't reply and move on.

[Blademaster91]

12 hours ago, mr moose said:

Give me a second battery over a battery bank and cable any time.  Who wants to spend an hour with their phone tied to a battery bank while they are on the go when then can carry a second battery much easier?   There is nothing worse than trying to use your phone on a train or bus while it is connected to a battery bank.  

 I agree, even managing a battery bank in a car can be annoying, it's much less convenient than keeping an extra battery in a bag. If manufacturers allowed batteries to be replaceable, then you'd just buy a charger to maintain the extra battery.

But I don't see the point in even faster SOC's, it's 20% more most people won't even use as phones have been more than fast enough for a while, and cameras have gotten so good you don't need to spend a ton on a phone. I'm honestly not sure how my reply before was insulting.

[Delicious Cake]

If anything, all this mental gymnastics over camera processing needs just points towards giving imaging processing tasks its own specialised dedicated chip, rather than the move towards trying to stuff a 9900K into a phone.

[Founders]

On 3/15/2020 at 9:52 PM, ARikozuM said:

Now, if only batteries were recyclable AND removable.

 

inb4 people complain that their 10yo device is STILL getting updates... #1stWorldProblems

 

On 3/16/2020 at 6:17 AM, mr moose said:

Give me a second battery over a battery bank and cable any time.  Who wants to spend an hour with their phone tied to a battery bank while they are on the go when then can carry a second battery much easier?   There is nothing worse than trying to use your phone on a train or bus while it is connected to a battery bank.  

 

User replaceable batteries would be a welcomed change in the smartphone market (although Apple would bitch and moan about it). @mr moose, what would that look like in your mind? I'm not saying I necessarily disagree I'm just trying to get an idea. Would the battery go in a slot on the side of the chassis or would there be a back plate? Perhaps if it was just a slot they could maintain most of their IP rating.

 

My hope is we move on to using solid state batteries soon to help mitigate current constraints. If solid state batteries can deliver on improved efficiency, higher energy density, improved stability and safety, we could be looking at phones lasting days between charges and slower degradation over time.     

[mr moose]

56 minutes ago, Founders said:

 

 

User replaceable batteries would be a welcomed change in the smartphone market (although Apple would bitch and moan about it). @mr moose, what would that look like in your mind? I'm not saying I necessarily disagree I'm just trying to get an idea. Would the battery go in a slot on the side of the chassis or would there be a back plate? Perhaps if it was just a slot they could maintain most of their IP rating.

 

My hope is we move on to using solid state batteries soon to help mitigate current constraints. If solid state batteries can deliver on improved efficiency, higher energy density, improved stability and safety, we could be looking at phones lasting days between charges and slower degradation over time.     

Clip on batteries like the motorolla 1-888 would allow them to maintain their IP rating and have quickly replaceable batteries.  I had one of those and it was awesome in the middle of the day to slide off one battery and slide in a new one.  It was literally as easy as swapping batteries on a drill.

[Founders]

1 hour ago, mr moose said:

Clip on batteries like the motorolla 1-888 would allow them to maintain their IP rating and have quickly replaceable batteries.  I had one of those and it was awesome in the middle of the day to slide off one battery and slide in a new one.  It was literally as easy as swapping batteries on a drill.

Perhaps LG was on the right track after all with the G5. I’m just not sure how well this idea would work with edge to edge displays.