LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19

[GOTSpectrum]

3 minutes ago, ObeliskAG said:

Not at this latitude - it's 6°C outside right now and the furnace isn't running. It will be interesting to check the household baseline on April 11th with all the PCs off - I suspect the four PCs are not actually consuming 2kW. Although, I have directly measured the FX8350 / 390X system (excluding monitor) consuming 474 watts running Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Measured the same way, the 3800X / 2080 Super consumes 383 watts.

Is your comparison to the year before?

 

Could it not be due to the lockdown making you guys use more appliances? 

[jack86ch]

26 minutes ago, rodarkone said:

@livingindoubt -> https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

 

LOL! I was excited about my points... until I saw your post

[Psedog]

The difference between CPU and GPU for folding is crazy. I'm going to look for a used Vega 56/64 to throw into my nas, lol. I'm sure the A8-5600k will be a bottleneck tough

 

I switched from OSX to Windows to get the gpu to fold. Now I'm wondering if using my Linux partition will produce better or worse results.  

[Psedog]

20 minutes ago, C3Shark said:

Well, I guess you'll have to sit there and fire up a game

Amazingly Dirt and the Division 2 had no problems running. At least with the CPU folding. I just started GPU folding and haven't had a chance to fire up a game yet. 

[Daniel_SC]

33 minutes ago, livingindoubt said:

I haven't been getting many WUs that I've noticed. How do I check historic data?

I know a lot of people have already answered, but here you can see the latest accepted WU's per slot. https://apps.foldingathome.org/cpu

[GOTSpectrum]

@ObeliskAG

 

So some quick maths, I saw that you were using the software readour for power consumption... Don't. It bases it's readout on a variety of values, and some are best guesses.

 

Taking your two systems I get a rough average of 428W, To make it simple we will round this down to 425.

 

425*4= 1700W, then if you add your usual baseload of 400 you get to 2.1Kw.

 

Looking at your readout there, 2.0Kw-2.3Kw seems about round where your consumption is. 

 

So think it is pretty much bob on, you are just using a bad metric to base your estimates on IMO? 

[Daniel_SC]

Just now, Psedog said:

Amazingly Dirt and the Division 2 had no problems running. At least with the CPU folding. I just started GPU folding and haven't had a chance to fire up a game yet. 

I have played ALOT of Doom Eternal while folding LOL. That game is insanely well optimized, but I do take a hit from 100fps locked on UWQHD, to around 80fps. But nothing I can't gain back with a little tweaking.

[GOTSpectrum]

While having a gander at the server I noticed this, Assignment rate of 127,056.01/hr.

 

The highest yet to date. So it is slowly creeping up. 

[ObeliskAG]

Just now, GOTSpectrum said:

Is your comparison to the year before?

 

Could it not be due to the lockdown making you guys use more appliances? 

The house has a "smart" electrical meter and we have a wireless energy monitor that connects to the smart meter via ZigBee. Accepting the limits of the sampling rate, it appears to be very accurate. I've compared consumption measurements of a "Kill-A-Watt" style monitor with the whole house meter when turning a load on and off, and they match.

 

Usually, in the middle of the night, with no 'fridge, freezer, furnace, or other appliances running, the house consumes 356 to about 398 watts. This is appliances in standby, battery chargers, LED night lights, two Synology NAS devices, Cisco 2960X-24TD-L switch, Asus router, modem, AllStar radio repeater, with a UPS for the network and NAS and a UPS for the radio repeater. Since leaving the four desktop PCs on 24/7 to fold, baseline consumption in the middle of the night appears to be 2.4kW.

[LU0P10]

1 hour ago, C3Shark said:

Yesterday, someone noticed some of their points were shifted to the Grammar Nazis. Of Course I had to point this out:

 

And now my points are going to them too. It's a conspiracy.

I have nothing to do with this... 

 

EDIT: maybe I should add some more smilies to this  You know... I am such a dick... 

...I just thought that you deserved it LUL... and those are just WUs after all LUL 

[C3Shark]

7 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

While having a gander at the server I noticed this, Assignment rate of 127,056.01/hr.

 

The highest yet to date. So it is slowly creeping up. 

My GPU WU request times are slowly creeping up though, up to 10 minutes on the last one. Wouldn't it be amazing if we process everything they have?

[GOTSpectrum]

5 minutes ago, ObeliskAG said:

The house has a "smart" electrical meter and we have a wireless energy monitor that connects to the smart meter via ZigBee. Accepting the limits of the sampling rate, it appears to be very accurate. I've compared consumption measurements of a "Kill-A-Watt" style monitor with the whole house meter when turning a load on and off, and they match.

 

Usually, in the middle of the night, with no 'fridge, freezer, furnace, or other appliances running, the house consumes 356 to about 398 watts. This is appliances in standby, battery chargers, LED night lights, two Synology NAS devices, Cisco 2960X-24TD-L switch, Asus router, modem, AllStar radio repeater, with a UPS for the network and NAS and a UPS for the radio repeater. Since leaving the four desktop PCs on 24/7 to fold, baseline consumption in the middle of the night appears to be 2.4kW.

Oh, I'm not saying don't trust the smart meter, I'm saying don't trust whatever software you are using on the PC to tell you watage.

 

Also just in case you missed it 

Spoiler

19 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

@ObeliskAG

 

So some quick maths, I saw that you were using the software readour for power consumption... Don't. It bases it's readout on a variety of values, and some are best guesses.

 

Taking your two systems I get a rough average of 428W, To make it simple we will round this down to 425.

 

425*4= 1700W, then if you add your usual baseload of 400 you get to 2.1Kw.

 

Looking at your readout there, 2.0Kw-2.3Kw seems about round where your consumption is. 

 

So think it is pretty much bob on, you are just using a bad metric(the wattage displayed in software) to base your estimates on IMO? 

 

 

[Jeremiah.Schorn]

Time for a 24 hour burn through Google servers before free credits run out. 

 

[cbigfoot]

1 hour ago, TrueMad said:

@cbigfoot how i can reach this page ?

 

 

Many thanks in advance

https://apps.foldingathome.org/cpu?q=cbigfoot

[SenKa]

Of course its giving my poor GTX 670 the chonker WU's, I think F@H is out for blood!

 

Here's a thought, since as far as i can tell FAH doesn't much care for VRAM whatsoever, would it be possible to buy up a card with faulty VRAM, downclock it all the way to keep it stable, and use it as a secondary folding card?

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, SenKa said:

Of course its giving my poor GTX 670 the chonker WU's, I think F@H is out for blood!

 

Here's a thought, since as far as i can tell FAH doesn't much care for VRAM whatsoever, would it be possible to buy up a card with faulty VRAM, downclock it all the way to keep it stable, and use it as a secondary folding card?

Nope, it does use the VRAM as a local cach, and actually even though the volume of VRAM used since Core_22 is still relatively low, it pings it at stupid rates these days

[SenKa]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Nope, it does use the VRAM as a local cach, and actually even though the volume of VRAM used since Core_22 is still relatively low, it pings it at stupid rates these days

Darn...

 

I did find these cards, which would make great secondary folding cards since all the damage is physical or non-critical (faulty display out ports). https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-G1-8GB-GDDR5-Graphics-Card-GV-N1070G1/303468573801?epid=14030519147&hash=item46a822f469%3Ag%3AARIAAOSwr05eNKJE&LH_ItemCondition=7000#viTabs_0

[LAR_Systems]

40 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Is your comparison to the year before?

 

Could it not be due to the lockdown making you guys use more appliances? 

There is a lot to this.

Many people are home not realizing that running TV, lights, heat, appliances, opening and closing the fridge/freezer etc. all day is not normal for their electric bill and adds up fast.

I know many people leaving a TV or two running the news at more less all times... if they are older or big that can be 2-600watts right there.

[GOTSpectrum]

We have actually seen a small increase in the number of active folders! WOO!!!!!!!!

 

[LAR_Systems]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

We have actually seen a small increase in the number of active folders! WOO!!!!!!!!

 

It's the folders that came back after realizing they gave their power to the Grammar Nazis LOL!

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, LAR_Systems said:

There is a lot to this.

Many people are home not realizing that running TV, lights, heat, appliances, opening and closing the fridge/freezer etc. all day is not normal for their electric bill and adds up fast.

I know many people leaving a TV or two running the news at more less all times... if they are older or big that can be 2-600watts right there.

Exactly, 

 

My only TV pulls about 230Watts, older style, the speakers playing use more power, the kettle being used more often, oven more often, fridge as you said, lights, PC monitor, laptop, speakers on my PC playing music or the news, ect.

 

I don't think many people realise just how much their passive things use sometimes. 

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, LAR_Systems said:

It's the folders that came back after realizing they gave their power to the Grammar Nazis LOL!

What over 1k of them... damn people... LEARN TO DOUBLE CHECK! 

 

geez!

 

/s

[C3Shark]

1 minute ago, LAR_Systems said:

It's the folders that came back after realizing they gave their power to the Grammar Nazis LOL!

And my settings legit didn't change! I don't get it

[LU0P10]

1 minute ago, C3Shark said:

And my settings legit didn't change! I don't get it

umm... see my earlier post 

[C3Shark]

1 minute ago, LU0P10 said:

umm... see my earlier post 

Well played