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rx580 to 1080ti. Have to take side panel off for good temps... Can I do anything else?

I had a Sapphire rx580 nitro+ before and I swapped it for the Gigabyte 1080ti OC g11 card. You can see system fan configuration, it was fine with the 580 peaking at 80C. The 1080ti though... I have to temp limit it to 82 or it will just keep rising. Personally I dont like it going that high. So I took off the sidepanel and WITHOUT any temp limits and maxed out power limit, it PEAKED at 74C. What I think is this is because the 1080ti's heatsink fins go from the sidepanel into the motherboard. The 580 had the fins side to side so it pushed quite a bit of hot air out the case instead of just building it in the case. 

Its the Phanteks Eclipse P400 White

 

Please see the pictures and let me know what I should do, Im just running with the sidepanel OFF right now but Id like to put it on if theres another solution. 

Thanks

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Is that an NZXT H440? Not a case known for airflow, I'd blame that. After all you havent tried taking the side panel off with the RX 580 yet.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Oh I had the same case and the same issue. The problem is that you have a 240/280mm AIO in the front which is blocking the air intake.

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Is that an NZXT H440? Not a case known for airflow, I'd blame that. After all you didnt try taking the side panel off with the RX 580 yet.

It's a Phanteks P400/P400S.

To resolve the issue in a fairly cheap way, just buy the front mesh panel from a P400A. It's compatible (if you can find it somewhere): https://www.phanteksusa.com/products/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-air-mesh-front-panel?variant=30590989238327

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That could just be how the cars operates. Temp limits are set by the manufacturer. My 980 Ti is designed to be quiet, so the fans don't really spin up until it reaches 83C.

 

Edit: Forget that, somehow I failed to notice that the front panel wasn't ventilated.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Is that an NZXT H440? Not a case known for airflow, I'd blame that. After all you havent tried taking the side panel off with the RX 580 yet.

Its the Phantenks P400 White. Ill mention that. Also I sold the 580 so cant test that

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2 minutes ago, BeastMaster101 said:

Its the Phantenks P400 White. Ill mention that. Also I sold the 580 so cant test that

If you have multiple fans in the front, see if you can take the front panel off and leave the side panel on. That should tell you how much a mesh front change will help (though it wont be as good since mesh is still some obstruction)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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13 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

That could just be how the cars operates. Temp limits are set by the manufacturer. My 980 Ti is designed to be quiet, so the fans don't really spin up until it reaches 90C.

 

Edit: Forget that, somehow I failed to notice that the front panel wasn't ventilated.

Fan ramp up at 90c? The hell. Set some fan curves on that poor thing. 

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21 minutes ago, lafrente said:

Fan ramp up at 90c? The hell. Set some fan curves on that poor thing. 

Why? I prefer a quieter machine, and people really exaggerate how cool a GPU needs to be. It's over 5 years old now and doing just fine.

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45 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Why? I prefer a quieter machine, and people really exaggerate how cool a GPU needs to be. It's over 5 years old now and doing just fine.

Is that a 3 fan card? If so set a fan curve and let that thing breathe

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14 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

Is that a 3 fan card?

Yes.

14 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

If so set a fan curve and let that thing breathe

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I was also wrong about it being 90C though.  It's actually 83C.  90C is when the fans hit maximum.  But it works fine that way.  My point was that people vastly overestimate the need for GPU cooling.  It never thermal throttles and it runs just as good as always.

Make sure to quote or tag me (@JoostinOnline) or I won't see your response!

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15 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Yes.

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I was also wrong about it being 90C though.  It's actually 83C.  90C is when the fans hit maximum.  But it works fine that way.  My point was that people vastly overestimate the need for GPU cooling.  It never thermal throttles and it runs just as good as always.

Thank you for making this post populated by your lack of GPU cooling and making your posts not related to my question

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Just get the mesh-panel like suggested before. There was something like 25C difference on cpu temps on Gamers Nexus review of p400a.

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1 hour ago, BeastMaster101 said:

Thank you for making this post populated by your lack of GPU cooling and making your posts not related to my question

I'm sorry, it wasn't intentional. I don't have a "lack of GPU cooling", I was just letting you know that all models have their own fan curve and thermal limits set by the manufacturer of the card, so you might not have anything to worry about.

 

Of course I'd failed to notice that your case is restricting air flow so much from the front. The person who responded right before me gave you the solution to your problem.

 

A less effective, but also free solution, could be to change up the fan configuration. Mount the radiator at the top, then put the top fan at the bottom front so that it blows the video card's hot air aoit the front panel.

Make sure to quote or tag me (@JoostinOnline) or I won't see your response!

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