How do you deal with parts that is not resellable?

[maxtch]

By not resellable, I mean perfectly functional, but for whatever reason it just won't move if you try to sell them, like being too old or too low end to be viable as a used item. How do you deal with them? Assume that is cost me money to dispose of e-waste properly due to local laws, so throwing them away is literally throwing money away.

 

I have some examples:

• A pair of matching E5-2620v2 CPU's: too low end to worth much if resold.
• A Pentium Dual Core E5600: also worthless on resale. I got it as a "CPU socket cover" from a seller when buying a LGA775 motherboard, although when I tested it it works perfectly.
• A lot of old laptop RAM modules: taken out of computers when upgrading, the original systems may or may not exist by now.
• Two old graphics cards: a GT 610 and a Radeon HD 2600 XT. (I even have some AGP stuff...)

I am also decommissioning a full LGA775 Core 2 Quad system soon (to be replaced with a Pentium G3258 overclocked one for my mom) so that would come with a P45 overclockable motherboard, a Q9300, 4 sticks of 2GB DDR2 RAM and a GTX 650 Ti graphics card.

 

How would you deal with them?

[emosun]

facebook marketplace > free

[Letgomyleghoe]

Just keep them, might go up in value later, or you can just hold onto them and collect them
 

I have 2 phenom x4 systems that I fuck around with occasionally.

[FakeCIA]

I usually recycle stuff like that at the local dump. In Arizona, we have a state-run program that will recycle pretty much anything. You get a small bonus and it will show on your tax return.

[dizmo]

Ebay. Someone will usually bid if you start at $0.99 and you can make a little on the shipping as well. 

[Windows7ge]

If it's enough components to assemble a working computer then either testbench or BOINC/F@H.

 

That's what I've done with my 1/2 dead 3930K rig.

[minibois]

17 minutes ago, maxtch said:

How would you deal with them?

Either I would try to still sell them or trade it with someone.

Or what I would probably do, is make something out of it; like a CPU keychain for example. The LGA CPU's make for pretty decent box cutters, or so I have heard!

[maxtch]

1 minute ago, Windows7ge said:

If it's enough components to assemble a working computer then either testbench or BOINC/F@H.

I'm short in power supplies and cases, even though cases are not technically necessary. I have at least one almost complete system (the one freshly decommissioned.) Testbenches sounds good as I do want to delve into developing some hardware that talks to a PC over PCIe, and a bug there can crash the whole host system.

 

3 minutes ago, minibois said:

Or what I would probably do, is make something out of it; like a CPU keychain for example. The LGA CPU's make for pretty decent box cutters, or so I have heard!

I am not willing to destroy a perfectly good component. If it is dead component I may consider that.

[callmejaccob]

Honestly, the quad core, gtx 650 ti, those xeons are what I've been looking for.

 

I would buy them, but I don't know how much Customs would charge.

 

I would probably go to a local computer store and see how much you can get for them, or possibly build a small server for game hosting with your friends.

[SupaKomputa]

Convert them all to office PC and sell it as a complete set.

Or donate it to orphan homes if no body's buying.

[TrainFan475]

I would either keep them or try selling all of them as a lot.

[Windows7ge]

32 minutes ago, maxtch said:

...and cases, even though cases are not technically necessary.

Got that right, who needs cases when you have:

• plywood
• spare standoffs
• tying wire
• and C clamps

 

...emergency call to local fire dept in 3...2...1...

[maxtch]

19 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Got that right, who needs cases when you have:

• plywood
• spare standoffs
• tying wire
• and C clamps

...emergency call to local fire dept in 3...2...1...

What kind of specs do you have in that machine?

 

(Also I am somehow accumulating LGA2011 and LGA775 CPU's. On the 775 side, my storage server is a Q9550S system with 8GB DDR2-800 ECC RAM, the system to be decommissioned is Q9300 with 8GB DDR2-800, and I have that spare E5600. On the 2011 side, my current HPC workstation rocks a pair of E5-2680's in C2 stepping, and I have that spare pair of E5-2620v2's.)

 

(Coming to think of it, is it really necessary for a storage server to rock a quad core and 8GB RAM? Maybe I should spin up a VM or two on there?)

[Windows7ge]

8 minutes ago, maxtch said:

What kind of specs do you have in that machine?

Oh god it's a disaster:

• Intel Core i7 3930K
  • Non-overclocked because even attempting it makes the OS kernel panic.
• ASUS Sabertooth X79 motherboard
  • I treated her well but time caught up with her. It has 1 dead RAM channel and defective PCI_e slot.
  • Noctua 140mm fan for motherboard/CPU VRM cooling
• G.Skill Sniper series 4x8GB
  • 32GB total (24GB usable - only 3 register in their slots)
• MSI Radeon HD 7770
  • broken but only installed to trick the system into POST-ing.
• PSU
  • Fire waiting to happen, probably why I can't OC the CPU at all.
• SSD
  • Some ADATA 64GB...wanted to boot from USB but the motherboard wasn't having it.
• CPU Cooler
  • Hyper 212-EVO with Noctua NF-F12 fans

It's been surprisingly stable though. It's been going full-tilt 24/7 for the past 4 months and only crapped out on me once:

Spoiler

Over 20 days since the last power failure or other issue:

 

Very good full-load temps for air-cooling but it's not overclocked so...:

 

 

[maxtch]

7 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

It's been surprisingly stable though. It's been going full-tilt 24/7 for the past 4 months and only crapped out on me once:

I don't think I will get a BOINC box. Instead I am aiming for a testbench. Should I just commission that Q9300 one, or make some changes? Also should I run the Q9300 overclocked (since I can?)

 

As of your motherboard, it is possible the problem lies in your CPU, since that motherboard really are just dumb traces for memory slots. If you can get your hands on another LGA2011 CPU and/or another LGA2011 motherboard, you should try that to find out what is the culprit for that dead memory channel. If the board is good after all, E5-1680v2 overclocked to 4.5GHz will breath a lot of new life into it

[Windows7ge]

12 minutes ago, maxtch said:

I don't think I will get a BOINC box. Instead I am aiming for a testbench. Should I just commission that Q9300 one, or make some changes? Also should I run the Q9300 overclocked (since I can?)

 

As of your motherboard, it is possible the problem lies in your CPU, since that motherboard really are just dumb traces for memory slots. If you can get your hands on another LGA2011 CPU and/or another LGA2011 motherboard, you should try that to find out what is the culprit for that dead memory channel. If the board is good after all, E5-1680v2 overclocked to 4.5GHz will breath a lot of new life into it

If you can keep it stable I say go for it but if you can't discern system lock-up's and crashes as being caused by your tests or the overclock then you may be better of not.

 

I have considered that it could be a defective memory controller in the CPU. I do have E5-2670'v1s in the house so I could swap-out the CPU and see if all the ram is magically detected again. It's always this one or two slots that drop out and the RAM slots themselves look fine so if it's not a socket issue it's the CPU. Unfortunately even on eBay people want way too much money for the overclockable 1680 CPU's. I'd rather go for the E5-2690v1 or E5-2697-v2.

[GDRRiley]

resell it. maybe in groups

you could also keep some of it.

I've got lots of old core 2 duo era stuff.

[Kisai]

5 hours ago, maxtch said:

By not resellable, I mean perfectly functional, but for whatever reason it just won't move if you try to sell them, like being too old or too low end to be viable as a used item. How do you deal with them? Assume that is cost me money to dispose of e-waste properly due to local laws, so throwing them away is literally throwing money away.

 

I have some examples:

• A pair of matching E5-2620v2 CPU's: too low end to worth much if resold.
• A Pentium Dual Core E5600: also worthless on resale. I got it as a "CPU socket cover" from a seller when buying a LGA775 motherboard, although when I tested it it works perfectly.
• A lot of old laptop RAM modules: taken out of computers when upgrading, the original systems may or may not exist by now.
• Two old graphics cards: a GT 610 and a Radeon HD 2600 XT. (I even have some AGP stuff...)

I am also decommissioning a full LGA775 Core 2 Quad system soon (to be replaced with a Pentium G3258 overclocked one for my mom) so that would come with a P45 overclockable motherboard, a Q9300, 4 sticks of 2GB DDR2 RAM and a GTX 650 Ti graphics card.

 

How would you deal with them?

Depends what you really want to do.

With the E5 chips, ebay those as a set, as there will still be people looking for minor upgrades for some machines.

 

The C2D, and laptop ram are probably worthless, just toss in a bag and put on ebay noting that the shipping cost is probably worth more than the item, recommend local pickup only.

 

Anything older than PCIe video cards, just stick in a box and ebay the lot.

[Bombastinator]

“Free” on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace is a good one.

I believe there’s a video around somewhere on how to make “techie” Christmas wreaths out of old ram.

One option is Donate it to freegeek if there is one in your area and they want it (that may not).  Some charities take computer parts and resell them online as well like goodwill.  Find out if they want it first too.  

[maxtch]

5 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

I have considered that it could be a defective memory controller in the CPU. I do have E5-2670'v1s in the house so I could swap-out the CPU and see if all the ram is magically detected again. It's always this one or two slots that drop out and the RAM slots themselves look fine so if it's not a socket issue it's the CPU. Unfortunately even on eBay people want way too much money for the overclockable 1680 CPU's. I'd rather go for the E5-2690v1 or E5-2697-v2.

Here in China it is cheaper to buy E5-1680v2 than E5-2697v2. For my existing dual socket C602 board with dual E5-2680(v1) the final CPU upgrade would be E5-2696v2, not the absolute top of the line E5-2697v2.

 

37 minutes ago, Caroline said:

damn... that's low end? I'm still bringing back to life S7, 370 and 462 machines here.

Somehow yes in China, in face of that wave of E5-2670 and E5-2660v2.

[Windows7ge]

4 minutes ago, maxtch said:

Here in China it is cheaper to buy E5-1680v2 than E5-2697v2. For my existing dual socket C602 board with dual E5-2680(v1) the final CPU upgrade would be E5-2696v2, not the absolute top of the line E5-2697v2.

For what I do, and the cost, more cores > faster cores. I also have a C602 board. I use it as a VM server. I'd like to swap out it's 2670s for 2690s but I have concern for if there's any VT-d issues as one VM relies on hardware pass-through. If I ever do do this though one 2670 will definitively go in the Sabertooth board.

 

In fact I need to check if there's any BIOS updates available. It's such an old board at this point I haven't bothered.

[maxtch]

1 minute ago, Windows7ge said:

For what I do, and the cost, more cores > faster cores. I also have a C602 board. I use it as a VM server. I'd like to swap out it's 2670s for 2690s but I have concern for if there's any VT-d issues as one VM relies on hardware pass-through. If I ever do do this though one 2670 will definitively go in the Sabertooth board.

 

In fact I need to check if there's any BIOS updates available. It's such an old board at this point I haven't bothered.

VT-d on Sandy Bridge-EP requires C2 stepping. You have to check the sSpec to find out. WHen I bought my pair of E5-2680 I have to hard specify that I want C2 stepping.

 

As of BIOS, you may want to make some edits before flashing, so you can get Meltdown/Spectre patches and NVMe boot support. I have hacked mine to have those features.

[Windows7ge]

7 minutes ago, maxtch said:

VT-d on Sandy Bridge-EP requires C2 stepping. You have to check the sSpec to find out. WHen I bought my pair of E5-2680 I have to hard specify that I want C2 stepping.

 

As of BIOS, you may want to make some edits before flashing, so you can get Meltdown/Spectre patches and NVMe boot support. I have hacked mine to have those features.

When I first got the 2670's I knew nothing about the VT-d bugs earlier steppings had. As luck would have it when I did want to try hardware pass-through both of mine were C2. So I assume the C2 Stepping issue extends to the whole series not just the 2670. I'll have to ask whatever seller I buy from to verify the Stepping.

 

Yay, bug fixes that will cripple the compute capability of the CPU for the sake of patching bugs I'll probably never fall victim to. Also I'll probably never need NVMe support on this platform. I have a retired 5960X rig.

[mr moose]

I have to bring myself to recycle,  if the reality is I don't need the parts and no one else wants them therefore I have to give them away or suffer as a hoarder with no room.

[it_dont_work]

I usually ebay it as a bulk lot of shit. its surprising what people will pay for a bulk lot.