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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello community,

 

I am building this setup for gaming competitive games, streaming, watching films and listening fav musics. My main need is to have maximum fps for 240hz Monitor in 1080p resolution. Also, data processing will be one of the main thing for this build to do. That's why I chose ryzen 9 over i9 9900k, I hope PCIe 4.0 will do much better. 

 

I want to hear your advices almost for all pc parts as I am not PRO at it. CPU and GPU is already bought. 

 

I am not looking to save some money and get items with the best value. I just want to know, if there is really much better product for each of part in the same price range.

 

Here is my part list, I hope you will give really good advices

 

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Looks good to me, but I dont see the point getting a soundcard when youre just going to use a Logitech headset. Also I prefer USB Dacs to soundcards.

 

And this is just personal preference, but I dont like the G903. I think the G Pro Wireless is much better and can also be used with Powerplay ^^

 

Additionally I have never seen a Gigabyte AIO so I cant say much about that


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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If you peel away all the fancy stuff you can probably fit a Threadripper 3rd gen in the budget, if not just a 3950X


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Noah0302 said:

Looks good to me, but I dont see the point getting a soundcard when youre just going to use a Logitech headset. Also I prefer USB Dacs to soundcards.

 

And this is just personal preference, but I dont like the G903. I think the G Pro Wireless is much better and can also be used with Powerplay ^^

Thank you. To be honest, sound is the main issue for me, as I am not really good at it. I wanted to get Aorus Ultra instead of Aorus Master, but the reason why I chose Aorus Master was it's audio drivers.

 

So, this sound card won't improve my performance? I mean, that sound card, won't give me the special advantage over the normal headset to motherboard connection? and what's the main difference between USB Dacs and Soundcards?

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

If you peel away all the fancy stuff you can probably fit a Threadripper 3rd gen in the budget, if not just a 3950X

Thank you, but CPU and GPU is already bought and I am not looking forward to change it, at least for 1 year from now :)

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1 minute ago, mosase7en said:

Thank you. To be honest, sound is the main issue for me, as I am not really good at it. I wanted to get Aorus Ultra instead of Aorus Master, but the reason why I chose Aorus Master was it's audio drivers.

 

So, this sound card won't improve my performance? I mean, that sound card, won't give me the special advantage over the normal headset to motherboard connection? and what's the main difference between USB Dacs and Soundcards?

It will improve the audio quite a bit!

 

But if youre just using a headset I dont think you will notice that big a difference.

Maybe go for high end headphones + modmic instead of a headset. :)


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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2 minutes ago, mosase7en said:

Thank you, but CPU and GPU is already bought and I am not looking forward to change it, at least for 1 year from now :)

yeah, just in general, a lot of premium stuff that does not really benefit pure performance. Cant really judge aesthetics, my standards there is way down.

 

Could be an RGB LED control mess though, I'm not sure if Asus Aura can control TT RGB systems but it cant control gigabyte ones for sure


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

It will improve the audio quite a bit!

 

But if youre just using a headset I dont think you will notice that big a difference.

Maybe go for high end headphones + modmic instead of a headset. :)

oh ok, understood now. Yeah, modmic can be arranged and it's a good choice, can you recommend me any high end headphones for mostly the best gaming performance which will use this sound card's resource maximally? 

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

yeah, just in general, a lot of premium stuff that does not really benefit pure performance. Cant really judge aesthetics, my standards there is way down.

yeah, got it. but kinda i love aesthetics and visuals of my rig. 

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My opinion is that sound cards are useless nowadays since most high end motherboard comes with really good audio drivers. So unless you're an audiophile or golden hear, you won't see a difference.


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3 minutes ago, mosase7en said:

yeah, got it. but kinda i love aesthetics and visuals of my rig. 

Talking about aesthetics, what software will you use to control the LEDs? Asus and Gigabyte use different ecosystems AFAIK


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Talking about aesthetics, what software will you use to control the LEDs? Asus and Gigabyte use different ecosystems AFAIK

Good point OP should change CPU cooler and motherboard to an asus AURA one since he already has the GPU. The flagship asus boards are still really good.

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2 minutes ago, mosase7en said:

oh ok, understood now. Yeah, modmic can be arranged and it's a good choice, can you recommend me any high end headphones for mostly the best gaming performance which will use this sound card's resource maximally? 

 

yeah, got it. but kinda i love aesthetics and visuals of my rig. 

I use the Sennheiser HD58X Jubilees and really love them.

They excell most at music listening, but gaming is also really good.

 

They are the best headphones Ive ever listened to. Combined with my Fiio K3 and enabled bass boost, which is only a slight bump in the low end, I could listen to them all day.


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

dont buy two 1tb nvme drives, buy a single 2tb drive. You will regret filling your m.2 slots.

that 970 Evo m2 is the thing I will have to move from 1 mother to another, for some kind of shared data, that's why I took 1TB SSD for my usage gigabyte one and another 1TB for shared usage.

6 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

My opinion is that sound cards are useless nowadays since most high end motherboard comes with really good audio drivers. So unless you're an audiophile or golden hear, you won't see a difference.

ok thank you

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Talking about aesthetics, what software will you use to control the LEDs? Asus and Gigabyte use different ecosystems AFAIK

 

3 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

Good point OP should change CPU cooler and motherboard to an asus AURA one since he already has the GPU. The flagship asus boards are still really good.

I wanted to use asus ryujin or whatever it called, but the point for declining getting Crosshair HERO motherboard was that it had 2 m2 slots and aorus master had 3, and the price for Crosshair Formula was much higher, i don't know now, but I hope that won't be a big problem that GPU will have another rgb controller soft and mother,cpu cooler will have another...

2 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

I use the Sennheiser HD58X Jubilees and really love them.

They excell most at music listening, but gaming is also really good.

 

They are the best headphones Ive ever listened to. Combined with my Fiio K3 and enabled bass boost, which is only a slight bump in the low end, I could listen to them all day.

ok, I will research it, I know Sennheiser is good for music and studio, but I wanted the maximum for gaming also )))

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4 minutes ago, mosase7en said:

I wanted to use asus ryujin or whatever it called, but the point for declining getting Crosshair HERO motherboard was that it had 2 m2 slots and aorus master had 3, and the price for Crosshair Formula was much higher, i don't know now, but I hope that won't be a big problem that GPU will have another rgb controller soft and mother,cpu cooler will have another...

Get the formula cos if you're trying to save money then you shouldnt be building like this.

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13 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

Get the formula cos if you're trying to save money then you shouldnt be building like this.

Formula has pretty much choked VRM cooling, sure it doesnt need much in the first place but still


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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