USB Bios Flashback without a cpu on the ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Motherboard?

[RyanDD]

In the process fo building my first gaming pc and i want to pair a ryzen 3700X with the Asus ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming Motherboard.

The only issue is on the ROG website it says that it is 3000 series ready however on MWave (i live in Aus) it says it is only 2000 series ready.

I knnow that Asus offer the USB bios flash feature without needing to install a CPU, does this board have that and if so will i need anything other than a USB?

I know that AMD can sometimes send you a second processor so that you can update the boards but i live in Australia and if i remember correctly i don't think they are doing this anymore. 

Hoping i could get some help.

 

 

Unrelated but ive attatched an image of what im planning to buy, if anyone notices any compatability issues that i haven't id appreciate that :D

 

[RyanDD]

also side note, i might do some light overclocking -  is it worth it to spend that extra money on an aftermarket cooler instead of using AMD's stock cooler?

[Master Disaster]

1 hour ago, RyanDD said:

In the process fo building my first gaming pc and i want to pair a ryzen 3700X with the Asus ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming Motherboard.

The only issue is on the ROG website it says that it is 3000 series ready however on MWave (i live in Aus) it says it is only 2000 series ready.

I knnow that Asus offer the USB bios flash feature without needing to install a CPU, does this board have that and if so will i need anything other than a USB?

I know that AMD can sometimes send you a second processor so that you can update the boards but i live in Australia and if i remember correctly i don't think they are doing this anymore. 

Hoping i could get some help.

 

 

Unrelated but ive attatched an image of what im planning to buy, if anyone notices any compatability issues that i haven't id appreciate that

 

If the board does support it then on the back I/O one of the USB ports will be red and there will be a Bios Flashback button next to the red port.

[PineyCreek]

I would think it would probably depend on how old the stock is from where you're purchasing it.  Most reliable manufacturers will eventually start shipping their hardware with the newer BIOS once they've confirmed it's stable.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, RyanDD said:

does this board have that

Nope

 

1 hour ago, RyanDD said:

I know that AMD can sometimes send you a second processor so that you can update the boards but i live in Australia and if i remember correctly i don't think they are doing this anymore. 

They're still doing it, just dont know how long the shipping will take. there's a chance that it comes with BIOS updated for 3rd gen anyway, but no guarantees

 

1 hour ago, RyanDD said:

if anyone notices any compatability issues that i haven't id appreciate that

Not so much compatibility, but higher price than what you really need to pay (sometimes even inferior specs)

 

1 hour ago, RyanDD said:

also side note, i might do some light overclocking -  is it worth it to spend that extra money on an aftermarket cooler instead of using AMD's stock cooler?

The B450-F really needs the help of the stock cooler which is a downdraft in order to overclock the 3700X, at the same time the stock cooler doesnt fare well with an overclocked 3700x (heck even at stock it runs 80C+ and is somewhat audible), so if you want to run stock it's advised to get an aftermarket cooler when you can, and if you overclock (honestly not so much worth it as you'll get 100-200MHz extra at most) a better board is a must.

 

What I would do

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$478.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$64.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$181.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$169.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$173.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card	$899.00 @ Centre Com
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.00 @ PC Byte
Power Supply	Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$119.00 @ Centre Com
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$11.86 @ Amazon Australia
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$11.86 @ Amazon Australia
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2195.72
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-29 19:42 AEDT+1100

Changed board for BIOS flashback

changed SSD because TLC doesnt slow down like hitting a wall during continuous writes, even if SATA is slower for bursts

Changed graphics card so RGB control is done with the same software (MSI one)

Changed case for airflow, sealed off fronts like the Matrexx 70 wont match mesh front

 

Monitor not listed because I dont know what you want to do with it. The AOC C32G1 is a 1080p monitor... For something this large, that's moreTV pixel density than it is monitor.

Keyboard not listed because I cant find it in PCPP.au with proper pricing.

[RyanDD]

30 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Nope

 

They're still doing it, just dont know how long the shipping will take. there's a chance that it comes with BIOS updated for 3rd gen anyway, but no guarantees

 

Not so much compatibility, but higher price than what you really need to pay (sometimes even inferior specs)

 

The B450-F really needs the help of the stock cooler which is a downdraft in order to overclock the 3700X, at the same time the stock cooler doesnt fare well with an overclocked 3700x (heck even at stock it runs 80C+ and is somewhat audible), so if you want to run stock it's advised to get an aftermarket cooler when you can, and if you overclock (honestly not so much worth it as you'll get 100-200MHz extra at most) a better board is a must.

 

What I would do

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$478.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$64.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$181.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$169.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$173.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card	$899.00 @ Centre Com
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.00 @ PC Byte
Power Supply	Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$119.00 @ Centre Com
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$11.86 @ Amazon Australia
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$11.86 @ Amazon Australia
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2195.72
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-29 19:42 AEDT+1100

Changed board for BIOS flashback

changed SSD because TLC doesnt slow down like hitting a wall during continuous writes, even if SATA is slower for bursts

Changed graphics card so RGB control is done with the same software (MSI one)

Changed case for airflow, sealed off fronts like the Matrexx 70 wont match mesh front

 

Monitor not listed because I dont know what you want to do with it. The AOC C32G1 is a 1080p monitor... For something this large, that's moreTV pixel density than it is monitor.

Keyboard not listed because I cant find it in PCPP.au with proper pricing.

Thanks so much for the help, this is actually really great for me because its my first build.

is the motherboard u have proposed out of the box ready for ryzen 3000 series?

and the monitor was a mistake i would be buying the 1440p version it just isn't in stock at the moment so i added that one to the cart aws a price reference for myself.

[RyanDD]

Thanks alot man

[Jurrunio]

2 hours ago, RyanDD said:

is the motherboard u have proposed out of the box ready for ryzen 3000 series?

Yes, also BIOS flashback just in case