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Help! MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max crashes with 3600mhz Cl18 ram

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Help and clarification needed!

It’s my first build, When I set A-XMP Profile 1, it keep restart my PC like every 3-5 Sec. So I decided to set it manually with the parameters (attachment) show in the CPU-Z, However it still keep restarting. After that I have even bump the Ram Voltage from 1.35 - 1.45 no improvement shown. May I ask how am I suppose to ensure my Ram Speed is running as Advertised with stability?

My PC Build:

• MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max

• AMD Ryzen 5 3600

• G.Skill Ripjaws V 3600

  ~ 18-22-22-42

• MSI RTX 2060 Super Ventus OC

• EVGA 600W (80+ Bronze)

• HP EX920 M.2 NVMe SSD (512GB)
  - OS (Window 10 Pro)

• Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM (2TB)

 

 

 

 

 

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Try upping the voltage on the memory controller or uncore maybe.

Im not sure if this will work for you as I have no experience on ZEN 2, but it stabilized my RAM OC on my 8700k.


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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6 minutes ago, Kagura.G said:

@ Noah0302 so increase the voltage higher than 1.45?

No, leave the RAM voltage at XMP stock, so 1.35

But increase the voltage on your CPUs SOC to a reasonable level.


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

No, leave the RAM voltage at XMP stock, so 1.35

But increase the voltage on your CPUs memory controller to a reasonable level.

Oh ok I will try

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3 minutes ago, Kagura.G said:

Oh ok I will try

 

 

Here is an interesting thread on reddit concerning your issue


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

 

 

Here is an interesting thread on reddit concerning your issue

Thank you

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My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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1 hour ago, Kagura.G said:

Hi I have tried and it still crashing however if I turn down the clock speed to 3466 with the same 1:1 Ratio it working fine any other recommendation for me to follow? Cos I really out of ideas

No, sadly Im also out of ideas right now.

But I also have not used a RAM kit with Ryzen that is above 3200.

 

To be honest though, if you work on your timings now rather than trying to reach 3600, you can get the same or even better performance.

I run my 3466 kit on 3434 (bclk 101, lol) cl15, which is faster than 3466 cl16. Maybe you can try to go for something like this, except the BCLK?


My Gaming PC:
Asus Strix RTX 2080 2150MHz core, 8000MHz memory
i7 8700k @4.95GHz delid + a fuckton of voltage (1.36V LLC6, yeah its a below average OCer) - NZXT x72
G.Skill Trident Z @3450MHz 32GB CL15 (3466 and 3200 mixed CL16) OC
Asus Maximus X Hero
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB (Windows)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Games)
Samsung 860 EVO 500GB (Stuff)
Seagate Expension Desk 4TB (Shadowplay and Backups)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11Dynamic
ROG SWIFT PG258Q  240hz

Razer Viper Ultimate / Endgame Gear XM1 / Logitech G Pro Wireless (Corepad Skatez) 
Ducky One 2 TKL RGB MX Blue/Silver (One 2 Mecha Mini soon?)

 

My Silent Multimedia PC:

Ryzen 2700 @4GHz 1.337V - Noctua NH-D15

Powecolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil 2030MHz Core, 935MHz Memory, undervolt

G.Skill Aegis 3200MHz (3000 kit)

MSI B450 Pro Carbon

Kingston A400 240GB (Windows) + 480GB (Games)

Corsair RM-650

Be Quiet Silent Base 601 with 1x 140mm Noctua exhaust from my D15

Samsung Q60R (4k 60hz for Windows, 1440p 120hz Freesync for gaming)

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Ducky One 2 Mini MX RED

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It's not the motherboard crashing, its the ram crashing. That mobo supports over 4000 mhz ram. I am using 3600mhz cl16 on 1.368v team ram perfectly fine on the same board (advertised 3200mhz cl16 & overclocked) and I feel like it can go up to 4000 easily. Like other user said check for FIRST indicator on the ram slots pcb. Install the sticks in those.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

First things first: did you install the sticks into slots A2B2? (2nd and 4th from the CPU). If not, then re-seat the sticks there first..

Yes I did

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, lafrente said:

It's not the motherboard crashing, its the ram crashing. That mobo supports over 4000 mhz ram. I am using 3600mhz cl16 on 1.368v team ram perfectly fine on the same board (advertised 3200mhz cl16 & overclocked) and I feel like it can go up to 4000 easily. Like other user said check for FIRST indicator on the ram slots pcb. Install the sticks in those.

Yep I assured I installed on the A2 and B2 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 hours ago, Noah0302 said:

No, sadly Im also out of ideas right now.

But I also have not used a RAM kit with Ryzen that is above 3200.

 

To be honest though, if you work on your timings now rather than trying to reach 3600, you can get the same or even better performance.

I run my 3466 kit on 3434 (bclk 101, lol) cl15, which is faster than 3466 cl16. Maybe you can try to go for something like this, except the BCLK?

Guess for now I will have to do that thanks for the help!

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1 hour ago, Kagura.G said:

Guess for now I will have to do that thanks for the help!

Try the sticks one by one to see if both has the problem or just one. If just one, RMA it. If both, I'd say RMA it again but then the ones you'll get will probably have the same issue.

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