Help! MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max crashes with 3600mhz Cl18 ram

[Kagura.G]

Help and clarification needed!

It’s my first build, When I set A-XMP Profile 1, it keep restart my PC like every 3-5 Sec. So I decided to set it manually with the parameters (attachment) show in the CPU-Z, However it still keep restarting. After that I have even bump the Ram Voltage from 1.35 - 1.45 no improvement shown. May I ask how am I suppose to ensure my Ram Speed is running as Advertised with stability?

My PC Build:

• MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max

• AMD Ryzen 5 3600

• G.Skill Ripjaws V 3600

  ~ 18-22-22-42

• MSI RTX 2060 Super Ventus OC

• EVGA 600W (80+ Bronze)

• HP EX920 M.2 NVMe SSD (512GB)
  - OS (Window 10 Pro)

• Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM (2TB)

 

 

 

 

 

[Noah0302]

Try upping the voltage on the memory controller or uncore maybe.

Im not sure if this will work for you as I have no experience on ZEN 2, but it stabilized my RAM OC on my 8700k.

[Kagura.G]

@ Noah0302 so increase the voltage higher than 1.45?

[Noah0302]

6 minutes ago, Kagura.G said:

@ Noah0302 so increase the voltage higher than 1.45?

No, leave the RAM voltage at XMP stock, so 1.35

But increase the voltage on your CPUs SOC to a reasonable level.

[Kagura.G]

2 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

No, leave the RAM voltage at XMP stock, so 1.35

But increase the voltage on your CPUs memory controller to a reasonable level.

Oh ok I will try

[Noah0302]

3 minutes ago, Kagura.G said:

Oh ok I will try

 

 

Here is an interesting thread on reddit concerning your issue

[Kagura.G]

5 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

 

 

Here is an interesting thread on reddit concerning your issue

Thank you

[Noah0302]

1 minute ago, Kagura.G said:

Thank you

No Problem,

 

from further googling I also found this quote from Corsair:

 

"SoC (System-on-Chip) Voltage: SoC voltage is the voltage supplied to supplementary components like the, known as “System-on-Chip.” Most motherboards will automatically adjust SoC Voltage to accommodate overclocks on DRAM. This value can be manually adjusted. • You must be very careful with adjustment of these values, due to potential inaccuracies in how voltage is being measured and reported; while you may set the SoC voltage to a safe level, variations that exceed the upper limit could irreparably damage your CPU or other components. • 1.2V is generally considered the upper limit of safe SoC voltages, particularly on Ryzen 3000 CPUs."

[Kagura.G]

18 hours ago, Noah0302 said:

No Problem,

 

from further googling I also found this quote from Corsair:

 

"SoC (System-on-Chip) Voltage: SoC voltage is the voltage supplied to supplementary components like the, known as “System-on-Chip.” Most motherboards will automatically adjust SoC Voltage to accommodate overclocks on DRAM. This value can be manually adjusted. • You must be very careful with adjustment of these values, due to potential inaccuracies in how voltage is being measured and reported; while you may set the SoC voltage to a safe level, variations that exceed the upper limit could irreparably damage your CPU or other components. • 1.2V is generally considered the upper limit of safe SoC voltages, particularly on Ryzen 3000 CPUs."

Hi I have tried and it still crashing however if I turn down the clock speed to 3466 with the same 1:1 Ratio it working fine any other recommendation for me to follow? Cos I really out of ideas

[Noah0302]

1 hour ago, Kagura.G said:

Hi I have tried and it still crashing however if I turn down the clock speed to 3466 with the same 1:1 Ratio it working fine any other recommendation for me to follow? Cos I really out of ideas

No, sadly Im also out of ideas right now.

But I also have not used a RAM kit with Ryzen that is above 3200.

 

To be honest though, if you work on your timings now rather than trying to reach 3600, you can get the same or even better performance.

I run my 3466 kit on 3434 (bclk 101, lol) cl15, which is faster than 3466 cl16. Maybe you can try to go for something like this, except the BCLK?

[Vejnemojnen]

First things first: did you install the sticks into slots A2B2? (2nd and 4th from the CPU). If not, then re-seat the sticks there first..

[lafrente]

It's not the motherboard crashing, its the ram crashing. That mobo supports over 4000 mhz ram. I am using 3600mhz cl16 on 1.368v team ram perfectly fine on the same board (advertised 3200mhz cl16 & overclocked) and I feel like it can go up to 4000 easily. Like other user said check for FIRST indicator on the ram slots pcb. Install the sticks in those.

[Kagura.G]

2 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

First things first: did you install the sticks into slots A2B2? (2nd and 4th from the CPU). If not, then re-seat the sticks there first..

Yes I did

[Kagura.G]

1 hour ago, lafrente said:

It's not the motherboard crashing, its the ram crashing. That mobo supports over 4000 mhz ram. I am using 3600mhz cl16 on 1.368v team ram perfectly fine on the same board (advertised 3200mhz cl16 & overclocked) and I feel like it can go up to 4000 easily. Like other user said check for FIRST indicator on the ram slots pcb. Install the sticks in those.

Yep I assured I installed on the A2 and B2 

[Kagura.G]

6 hours ago, Noah0302 said:

No, sadly Im also out of ideas right now.

But I also have not used a RAM kit with Ryzen that is above 3200.

 

To be honest though, if you work on your timings now rather than trying to reach 3600, you can get the same or even better performance.

I run my 3466 kit on 3434 (bclk 101, lol) cl15, which is faster than 3466 cl16. Maybe you can try to go for something like this, except the BCLK?

Guess for now I will have to do that thanks for the help!

[lafrente]

1 hour ago, Kagura.G said:

Guess for now I will have to do that thanks for the help!

Try the sticks one by one to see if both has the problem or just one. If just one, RMA it. If both, I'd say RMA it again but then the ones you'll get will probably have the same issue.