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2920x or 3900x unRAID

Hello, im planning whether i should purchase a 2920x or Ryzen 9 3900x, totally with mobo, ram etc. its priced the exact same for me.

My problem is that i dont know if id be able to run my Windows 10 VM (Daily driver) in one room, with all of my 3 monitors connected, and also having a Mac OS X in another room?

I wont have them running at the same time, but cant understand if id be able to do it with the limited number of pcie lanes on the Ryzen 9 3900x vs the 60 on the Ryzen threadripper 2920x

I will mainly be using it for running games and photo editing program, and not much else. Mostly some dockers

 

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So you want to dedicate a box to hosting a Windows and MacOS VM?

 

I've only heard of people running MacOS on Manjaro. Haven't heard success on UnRAID but I haven't researched it either.

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Since you're planning to run games I assume you're going to use PCIe passthrough to the VMs? Because if that's the case and you're planning to use one GPU per VM, you'll pretty much have to go for the Threadripper.

 

Otherwise, I'm not sure if unRAID allows you to assign the same PCIe slot to two VMs as long as they won't run at the same time.

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36 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

So you want to dedicate a box to hosting a Windows and MacOS VM?

 

I've only heard of people running MacOS on Manjaro. Haven't heard success on UnRAID but I haven't researched it either.

U can with the Macinabox plugin, its mentioned on youtube.

12 minutes ago, silentdragon95 said:

Since you're planning to run games I assume you're going to use PCIe passthrough to the VMs? Because if that's the case and you're planning to use one GPU per VM, you'll pretty much have to go for the Threadripper.

 

Otherwise, I'm not sure if unRAID allows you to assign the same PCIe slot to two VMs as long as they won't run at the same time.

Yeah my thought as well, just sucks to have to take the treadripper when my main goal is gaming. But im wondering if its possible to use a mining card riser for 1x for the usb cards, and then im actually only running the two graphic cards in 8x.

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8 minutes ago, Justinhome said:

Yeah my thought as well, just sucks to have to take the treadripper when my main goal is gaming. But im wondering if its possible to use a mining card riser for 1x for the usb cards, and then im actually only running the two graphic cards in 8x.

Not sure what you mean they this. Perhaps the motherboard would report it as being x8 but the GPU would only have x1 of bandwidth. For mining that fine but for gaming I do believe that's not enough bandwidth.

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3900X with the right board should do fine. you just need a X470 or x570 board that supports SLI so you have 2 16x slots that will run at 8x mode.X570 would make some sense here as if the GPU supports gen 4 you will get more bandwidth to it.

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2 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

Not sure what you mean they this. Perhaps the motherboard would report it as being x8 but the GPU would only have x1 of bandwidth. For mining that fine but for gaming I do believe that's not enough bandwidth.

Use a mining card riser for the USB controllers. Not the graphic card - sorry if im writing it confusing, english isn't my normal language. Dane here

1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

3900X with the right board should do fine. you just need a X470 or x570 board that supports SLI so you have 2 16x slots that will run at 8x mode.X570 would make some sense here as if the GPU supports gen 4 you will get more bandwidth to it.

Whats your thought on the 2 usb controller? And maybe a sata expansion card

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31 minutes ago, Justinhome said:

Whats your thought on the 2 usb controller? And maybe a sata expansion card

the ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC would work.

I'm not sure if asrock is using a 2nd USB controller onboard but there would be space to add one on that board.

 

SATA expansion shouldn't be needed unless you got lots of HDD. if you got that start looking at a NAS

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

the ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC would work.

I'm not sure if asrock is using a 2nd USB controller onboard but there would be space to add one on that board.

 

SATA expansion shouldn't be needed unless you got lots of HDD. if you got that start looking at a NAS

My intention is to use the pc as a nas like device.

Do u know if any Asus MB can do?

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2 minutes ago, Justinhome said:

My intention is to use the pc as a nas like device.

Do u know if any Asus MB can do?

okay well then you've got 6 onboard sata ports with 3 m.2 PCIE slots.

the easier way is save the SATA for HDD and use the m.2 for boot/storage drives.

 

the asus board that seems to be comparable would be the X470 Prime Pro

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5 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

okay well then you've got 6 onboard sata ports with 3 m.2 PCIE slots.

the easier way is save the SATA for HDD and use the m.2 for boot/storage drives.

 

the asus board that seems to be comparable would be the X470 Prime Pro

What about the X570? Arent that better use of money?

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Just now, Justinhome said:

What about the X570? Arent that better use of money?

you can certainly step up to them. only amds 5xxx series of GPUs support gen 4so you won't be getting any more bandwidth with a current gen nivida card.

it will give you faster networking in smaller slots. theoretically now a 10gb card can use a 1x gen 4 slot.

PCIE gen 4 storage is a bit of mess now with often gen 3 great drives doing as well.

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