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Q9500 or E8600 for Minecraft server?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi, I recently got my hands on a Nec Powermate ML470 with a crappy older Core Duo, and I'd like to update the cpu, so that I can host a Minecraft server. I have a total of 8 gigs of ddr2 800mhz ram, and an SSD. Should I get the Q9500, which is a quad core, or the E8600, which runs at 3.3ghz, instead of the 2.83ghz of the Q9500, and scores about 300 point higher in single core, according to passmark's chart? [I don't think that OC is an option, with this motherboard that this machine have (MSI MS-7377 Rev. 1.2)]. I have read that a Minecraft Server does not utilize multiple threads very well, and I am wondering if the extra 2 cores would benefit it at all. 

 

(The server will be having about 10 people, and will not be running any mods. My internet connection is 50down/5up)

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Core 2 CPUs, apart from more cores and higher clock speed, didn't improve that much. What if you try out the current CPU first?  What does it have?


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Core 2 CPUs, apart from more cores and higher clock speed, didn't improve that much. What if you try out the current CPU first?  What does it have?

It's an E4600, which scores significantly lower at single core.

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19 minutes ago, Thanos_D said:

It's an E4600, which scores significantly lower at single core.

https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/server-support-and/2669643-multi-thread-dual-core-vs-quad-core-results-solved

with the newer Core 2s, older minecraft versions yes, newer versions suffer from poor optimization (basically since 1.13) so expect downgrading the game if it stutters


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/server-support-and/2669643-multi-thread-dual-core-vs-quad-core-results-solved

with the newer Core 2s, older minecraft versions yes, newer versions suffer from poor optimization (basically since 1.13) so expect downgrading the game if it stutters

Oh, so I guess I should go for the Q9500. Yeah, I am aware of the poor optimization of newer versions, and I will surely experiment at first. Thanks a lot!

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I doubt any S775 processor is enough to run a decent server these days. When you're not running mods, a realm is the sensible choice. Ask your friends to skip one soda a month and you'll be set.

 

If you and your friends have been playing long enough, you might all be able to get the Bedrock version for free. Since it's far less resource intensive on the clients, I'd bet it's also much easier (and optimised) on the server. They haven't really advertised it yet, but hosting Bedrock servers has been a thing for long enough for there to be plenty of resources regarding it. Your friends might also appreciate the added benefit of much wider client support (PC/VR/Xbone/phones, probably even fridges by now).

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 hours ago, tatte said:

I doubt any S775 processor is enough to run a decent server these days. When you're not running mods, a realm is the sensible choice. Ask your friends to skip one soda a month and you'll be set.

 

If you and your friends have been playing long enough, you might all be able to get the Bedrock version for free. Since it's far less resource intensive on the clients, I'd bet it's also much easier (and optimised) on the server. They haven't really advertised it yet, but hosting Bedrock servers has been a thing for long enough for there to be plenty of resources regarding it. Your friends might also appreciate the added benefit of much wider client support (PC/VR/Xbone/phones, probably even fridges by now).

Thanks for answering. About the CPU, the minimum spec seems to be Core 2 Duo, and I will be getting a Core 2 Quad, with 8gb ram. I'd like to try and host the server myself, and it's not like the hardware (A 12$ cpu) will be bought just for that. Might as well be used as a download machine, server, or in the living room. Regarding, bedrock, it seems that redstone is working a bit different. And I don't need the cross platform support, as we all play on PCs. If it all goes wrong performance wise though, I might give it a try.

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