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AMD 3990X pushed to 5.748 GHz on single core-wins 5 WRs

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Pretty insane news; Asrock worked with an overclocker called SPLAVE to overclock the 3990x to 5.748 GHz, in addition to breaking other records. 

 

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Original source: https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/asrock_claims_5_world_records_with_its_trx40_taichi_and_amd_s_ryzen_threadripper_3990x/1

 

 

What makes this interesting is that, since the 3990x is supposed to be using the messed binned chiplets that AMD makes, and that trx40 has some of the highest available power budget, is that this could become THE single socket overclocking platform. 

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Is there any point in doing single-core OC to a 3990X (or other high-core-count CPUs in the past) as opposed to basically any other chip with the same architecture?

 

I understand they're doing this for the headlines, but my question is: why do we give headlines to such "records", instead of focusing on all-core overclocks? Even with exotic cooling, it would still be closer to a representation of what "squeezing everything out of your CPU" looks like, while single-core OC is something you can do with the $50 CPU...

 

(Hence why I say "record", since it's not a single-core record, but a "single-core with this particular model of CPU" record, but why do we care about this particular model if we're just using one core...)

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19 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Is there any point in doing single-core OC to a 3990X (or other high-core-count CPUs in the past) as opposed to basically any other chip with the same architecture?

 

I understand they're doing this for the headlines, but my question is: why do we give headlines to such "records", instead of focusing on all-core overclocks? Even with exotic cooling, it would still be closer to a representation of what "squeezing everything out of your CPU" looks like, while single-core OC is something you can do with the $50 CPU...

 

(Hence why I say "record", since it's not a single-core record, but a "single-core with this particular model of CPU" record, but why do we care about this particular model if we're just using one core...)

The reason they used this instead of a 3600 is because the highest SKU almost always has the best binned chips. They’re going for the #1 spot they need the highest binning achievable and they wouldn’t get that if they bought a cheap CPU on the same architecture.

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1 minute ago, schwellmo92 said:

The reason they used this instead of a 3600 is because the highest SKU almost always has the best binned chips. They’re going for the #1 spot they need the highest binning achievable

The highest spot of what, though? This isn't the highest single-core clocks ever achieved (nor two-core OC for that matter), not even close. It's just the highest on a 3990X. 

So yeah, I guess that you need a 3990X to achieve the "highest 1-core OC on a 3990X" spot, but that's tautological.

 

I do believe the true reason to do this is that "5.8 GHZ on a 3990X" headlines will trick many minds to think of 64 x 5.8GHz CPUs..

 

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54 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

 

I do believe the true reason to do this is that "5.8 GHZ on a 3990X" headlines will trick many minds to think of 64 x 5.8GHz CPUs..

 

I wouldn't go as far to say that, but it certainly goes as far as making the biggest chip with the most cores go the fastest.   Which sells more articles and ads than "domestic office machine clocks up second fastest OC on X".


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3 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

The highest spot of what, though? This isn't the highest single-core clocks ever achieved (nor two-core OC for that matter), not even close. It's just the highest on a 3990X. 

The highest 3990X (possible highest Zen 2?)

 

He got many records they're all mentioned in the article:

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Awesome, neat to see how each gen can OC though. What would be amazing is to see clocks ~ to it on AIO with less core counts eventually. 


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It'd be nice if AMD could make an 8 core and see how far they can push single core perf across all cores.


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10 hours ago, Camofelix said:

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6 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Exotic cooling I assume.

World records are almost always on liquid nitrogen unless specified, highest overclock on aircooling or something like that.

 

I think they mess arround with even more exotic stuff like liquid helium as well but don't know too much about that myself.


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8 hours ago, schwellmo92 said:

The highest 3990X

... and we're back to square one ? That was exactly my point from the beginning:

- if we restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, why do we look at single-core rankings instead of all-core rankings? Because higher numbers are more impressive?

- if we don't restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, who cares?

 

The other records, if related to multi-core benchmarks, are all fine, hence why I didn't question those, but only the headline-grabbing single core OC, why it gets attention, etc, etc.

 

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... and we're back to square one ? That was exactly my point from the beginning:

- if we restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, why do we look at single-core rankings instead of all-core rankings? Because higher numbers are more impressive?

- if we don't restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, who cares?

 

The other records, if related to multi-core benchmarks, are all fine, hence why I didn't question those, but only the headline-grabbing single core OC, why it gets attention, etc, etc.

 

The reason is simple - there is money in this.  Advertising for the companies providing the materials, teams for the OCers etc.  Money, money, money.  None of this done was free or without expecting an investment return over time for both parties (providers of materials, guy in charge of OCing)

 

TBH There are plenty of world records for crap in the Guinness Books that shouldn't be considered a world record, but that's not for me to define.


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5 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

... and we're back to square one ? That was exactly my point from the beginning:

- if we restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, why do we look at single-core rankings instead of all-core rankings? Because higher numbers are more impressive?

- if we don't restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, who cares?

 

The other records, if related to multi-core benchmarks, are all fine, hence why I didn't question those, but only the headline-grabbing single core OC, why it gets attention, etc, etc.

 

I understand your point,but in this day and age how can you not want to grab a bottle of lotion and hit the bedroom with this world record!!!!

 

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Probably hijacking this thread a little bit, but I still feel like this question is at least partly relevant... Is there and if there is... A record for actual "best" OC as in actual horse power record? Not just highest number in GHz, but the fastest GHz slash IPC, thus the highest single core productivity record or something? Because I am pretty sure that while say 7 gigahurtz sounds cool, if it was achieved on some old, by nowadays considered shit architecture with poor IPC, it would hardly beat even normally clocked everyday CPU.

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14 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

... and we're back to square one ? That was exactly my point from the beginning:

- if we restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, why do we look at single-core rankings instead of all-core rankings? Because higher numbers are more impressive?

- if we don't restrict our attention to 3990X CPUs, who cares?

 

The other records, if related to multi-core benchmarks, are all fine, hence why I didn't question those, but only the headline-grabbing single core OC, why it gets attention, etc, etc.

 

I don’t understand your point though. Most world records are arbitrary, this guy broke the 3990X single-core, someone else probably holds the multi-core. Saying it’s not the higher MHz overall is also flawed, again it’s arbitrary because different architectures can do more or less with the same MHz.

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