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GamerBlake

Hey guys,

 

I have a question about monitors when it comes to gaming only:

 

Is it better to have a higher resolution or a higher refresh rate? ? 

 

Im currently running a 1440p 144hz monitor and I’m wondering if it’s better or worse than a 4K 60 hz monitor? ??‍♂️ 

 

I know everyone has their own opinions so I’m wondering what you guys think and what your opinion is?

 

I have an 8700K & 2080 Ti so I know my PC can handle 4K 60 FPS but I’m not sure if it’s worth “upgrading” to from 1440p 144hz? 
 

Thanks!

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i dont care for refresh rate as it only affects gameplay in games that require it. meaning only fps games

otherwise resolution is always proffered. if i wanted to watch an overly smooth mouse move around the screen i'd dig the 1998 imac out of the closet lol

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It depends. In fast paced games, and eSports/Competitive shooters you'll absolutely want 144hz.

 

In AAA titles, and more scenic story driven games, 4k 60hz will obviously look better. The caveat being 4k is hard to drive, and todays hardware can't keep up (I don't think theres any gaming PC right now that can drive all new games 4k 60fps.)

 

 

I think with today's hardware 1440p 144hz, or UWQHD 120+hz is the sweet spot. I'm personally a huge fan of UWQHD

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1 minute ago, Statik said:

It depends. In fast paced games, and eSports/Competitive shooters you'll absolutely want 144hz.

 

In AAA titles, and more scenic story driven games, 4k 60hz will obviously look better. The caveat being 4k is hard to drive, and todays hardware can't keep up (I don't think theres any gaming PC right now that can drive all new games 4k 60fps.)

 

 

I think with today's hardware 1440p 144hz, or UWQHD 120+hz is the sweet spot. I'm personally a huge fan of UWQHD

Thanks for your input! :)

 

would get an UWQHD monitor if I could, but sadly I just don’t have the space for a huge monitor or ultra wide monitor as you can see below.

 

I only have space for about a 27” non-ultrawide monitor :/.

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5 minutes ago, Statik said:

(I don't think theres any gaming PC right now that can drive all new games 4k 60fps.)

you can if you turn the settings down , it's just new people that don't know you dont need AA turned on at 4k.

I've actually been playing gta5 on my 1060 at 4k for years now and people are somehow baffled at how it's possible without thinking that if you run it at high instead of ultra it plays just fine.

 

I think it's just the impact of internet documentation degradation. the art of slinding a slider down until the game plays well seems to be a lost art of some sort.

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1 minute ago, emosun said:

you can if you turn the settings down , it's just new people that don't know you dont need AA turned on at 4k.

I've actually been playing gta5 on my 1060 at 4k for years now and people are somehow baffled at how it's possible without thinking that if you run it at high instead of ultra it plays just fine.

 

I think it's just the impact of internet documentation degradation. the art of slinding a slider down until the game plays well seems to be a lost art of some sort.

Lmao, I used to play war thunder on my hp elite book 8460p, minimum settings I was lucky if I got 30 FPS in tanks ?

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Just now, emosun said:

you can if you turn the settings down , it's just new people that don't know you dont need AA turned on at 4k.

I've actually been playing gta5 on my 1060 at 4k for years now and people are somehow baffled at how it's possible without thinking that if you run it at high instead of ultra it plays just fine.

 

I think it's just the impact of internet documentation degradation. the art of slinding a slider down until the game plays well seems to be a lost art or some sort.

I’m pretty sure my overclocked EVGA XC2 Ultra 2080 Ti & overclocked 5GHz 8700K can run games at 4K 60fps.

 

In able to get ~150fps on the games I play (Resident Evil 2 remake, Devil May Cry 5, WoW, Resident Evil 7, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Dark Souls 3, etc.,) with maxed out settings

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1 minute ago, GamerBlake said:

I’m pretty sure my overclocked EVGA XC2 Ultra 2080 Ti & overclocked 5GHz 8700K can run games at 4K 60fps.

 

In able to get ~150fps on the games I play (Resident Evil 2 remake, Devil May Cry 5, WoW, Resident Evil 7, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Dark Souls 3, etc.,) with maxed out settings

good for you?

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2 minutes ago, scuff gang said:

Lmao, I used to play war thunder on my hp elite book 8460p, minimum settings I was lucky if I got 30 FPS in tanks ?

I’m running an overclocked 8700K & 2080 Ti which can definitely handle 60fps @ 4K considering it easily manages ~150+ FPS at 1440p in all the games I play with maxed out settings.

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Just now, emosun said:

good for you?

I was responding to the comment about no hardware being able to run 4K 60 FPS. ?‍♂️ 

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3 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

I was responding to the comment about no hardware being able to run 4K 60 FPS. ?‍♂️ 

yeah and you quoted me not them

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I mean whats about the 4k 144hz Monitors ? A 2080ti can push alot of games above 60 4k with the right settings and if u dont care about hdr etc there are the 4k 144hz acer models that only cost about 700/800 euros here in germany so u get the best of both worlds 

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It's all about what takes priority with you. I didn't buy my monitor with the main intent of gaming, but nevertheless, it works fine for that need, as I prioritized resolution over refresh rate to begin with (for reference, I'm talking about a 2560x1600 monitor at 60Hz vs. maybe going for a 1080p 144Hz monitor). 

Considering your setup, you could probably have the best of both worlds by yoinking a 1440p high refresh rate monitor of some sorts.

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3 minutes ago, xhackforeverxdx said:

I mean whats about the 4k 144hz Monitors ? A 2080ti can push alot of games above 60 4k with the right settings and if u dont care about hdr etc there are the 4k 144hz acer models that only cost about 700/800 euros here in germany so u get the best of both worlds 

Link?

i haven’t seen any less than 1000

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1 hour ago, emosun said:

you can if you turn the settings down , it's just new people that don't know you dont need AA turned on at 4k.

I've actually been playing gta5 on my 1060 at 4k for years now and people are somehow baffled at how it's possible without thinking that if you run it at high instead of ultra it plays just fine.

 

I think it's just the impact of internet documentation degradation. the art of slinding a slider down until the game plays well seems to be a lost art of some sort.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But when I talk about "How well something runs" a game, etc, I'm talking about max settings. And sure, you can play plenty of older games at 4k. But no computer can drive Metro Exodus, Tomb Raider, AC:O, etc. very well at 4k.

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7 minutes ago, emosun said:

yeah and you quoted me not them

Yeah because I was backing up what you said about that not being true.

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I think you have it.  I have a 1080p 60hz panel, 1440p 144hz panel, and a 4k 60hz panel all within eyeshot right now.  My favorite of all is 1440p 144hz.  My 2 copper coins anyhow.

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3 minutes ago, handymanshandle said:

It's all about what takes priority with you. I didn't buy my monitor with the main intent of gaming, but nevertheless, it works fine for that need, as I prioritized resolution over refresh rate to begin with (for reference, I'm talking about a 2560x1600 monitor at 60Hz vs. maybe going for a 1080p 144Hz monitor). 

Considering your setup, you could probably have the best of both worlds by yoinking a 1440p high refresh rate monitor of some sorts.

I actually already do have a 1440p high refresh rate monitor (144 hz) and I was just wondering if I should stick with that or if it’s worth upgrading to a 4K monitor with lower refresh rate or if that’s not an upgrade at all anyway.

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Just now, Tristerin said:

I think you have it.  I have a 1080p 60hz panel, 1440p 144hz panel, and a 4k 60hz panel all within eyeshot right now.  My favorite of all is 1440p 144hz.  My 2 copper coins anyhow.

Ah ok so you think I should stick with my 1440p 144hz monitor? ? 

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Just now, GamerBlake said:

Ah ok so you think I should stick with my 1440p 144hz monitor? ? 

I think you should do what you prefer, of the 3 I prefer 1440p 144hz because response time, clarity etc in one package

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Really 1440p 144Hz the sweet spot. No point getting a monitor that's not 144Hz these days. Especially don't see the point going over 1080p if it's not keeping the 144Hz. 

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48 minutes ago, Doobeedoo said:

Really 1440p 144Hz the sweet spot. No point getting a monitor that's not 144Hz these days. Especially don't see the point going over 1080p if it's not keeping the 144Hz. 

 

I would agree, 1440p 144hz is defiantly the sweet spot,  definitely if you have Gsync or Freesync as well.

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I totally disagree, HFR is pointless other than to get a competitive advantage in competitive multiplayer games.

I'm all for 4k60fps.

 

However, no I would not swap out a 1440p 144hz display. 

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14 hours ago, GamerBlake said:

Hey guys,

 

I have a question about monitors when it comes to gaming only:

 

Is it better to have a higher resolution or a higher refresh rate? ? 

 

Im currently running a 1440p 144hz monitor and I’m wondering if it’s better or worse than a 4K 60 hz monitor? ??‍♂️ 

 

I know everyone has their own opinions so I’m wondering what you guys think and what your opinion is?

 

I have an 8700K & 2080 Ti so I know my PC can handle 4K 60 FPS but I’m not sure if it’s worth “upgrading” to from 1440p 144hz? 
 

Thanks!

For gaming, especially competitive gaming, higher refresh is better.

 

Also generally speaking those that run 120hz+ for any length of time find it difficult to put up with going back down to 60hz, so u probably wouldnt like it.

 

IMO the upgrade path from 144hz 1440p is 120hz 4k, and thats particularly hard to drive with current hardware. Not ot mention there are few 120hz 4k panels available. At least until later this yea when Lg release their 48" CX OLED, at which point that will be the go to display for 120hz 4k gaming.

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