how safe it is to run hdd's vertically?

[Windows95]

so i see that people run HDDs vertically now to I guess make more space for better airflow, however 2 concers i have:

 

1) since it has moving parts, gravity wouldn't damage the disks or something over time?

2) since the disks are sitting on the back, there is no airflow there, they are just trapped in a small space. isnt this bad?

[paddy-stone]

4 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

so i see that people run HDDs vertically now to I guess make more space for better airflow, however 2 concers i have:

 

1) since it has moving parts, gravity wouldn't damage the disks or something over time?

2) since the disks are sitting on the back, there is no airflow there, they are just trapped in a small space. isnt this bad?

Actually if you look at servers/NAS, most of them are in the vertical position. It's mostly desktops that have them horizontally.

[SupaKomputa]

1. no. many NAS system run HDD vertically. If there are downsides, the manufacturer would place big stickers so you put it the right way.

2. which case? it is recommended that hdd have enough ventilation, but they are not that hot to begin with, so don't worry about it.

[SpookyCitrus]

8 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

so i see that people run HDDs vertically now to I guess make more space for better airflow, however 2 concers i have:

 

1) since it has moving parts, gravity wouldn't damage the disks or something over time?

2) since the disks are sitting on the back, there is no airflow there, they are just trapped in a small space. isnt this bad?

I've mounted a few laptop/hybrid HDDs vertically in small form factor desktops and not had an issue, vertical mounting HDDs is very common. With SSDs it doesn't matter at all how you mount it but HDDs are more sensitive. Usually if it's vertical or horizontal it doesn't matter but you want it secure and stable, not free floating or able to move around a lot even something like a bump or jostle of the drive while it is spinning/operational can cause an issue.

[nick name]

Look at almost every external HDD for sale and I think you'll see that almost all are oriented vertically.  

[Windows95]

7 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

1. no. many NAS system run HDD vertically. If there are downsides, the manufacturer would place big stickers so you put it the right way.

2. which case? it is recommended that hdd have enough ventilation, but they are not that hot to begin with, so don't worry about it.

define r6

[Windows95]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

Look at almost every external HDD for sale and I think you'll see that almost all are oriented vertically.  

but they arent trapped inside a box that generates warm

[nick name]

2 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

but they arent trapped inside a box that generates warm

While there aren't other components (beyond maybe a tiny PSU) the drives themselves generate heat.  

 

But I'm curious as to why you think the orientation of the drive is impacted by heat.  

[SupaKomputa]

3 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

define r6

which side are you talking about.

if the bottom hdd rack, it's getting the air from the PSU fan.

For the ssd tray, ssd don't generate enough heat, so don't worry.

I thought you were talking about an ITX case, that case is not that small.

[Windows95]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

While there aren't other components (beyond maybe a tiny PSU) the drives themselves generate heat.  

 

But I'm curious as to why you think the orientation of the drive is impacted by heat.  

well, if u mount them vertically, they are behind any airflow, trapped inside a tiny gap

 

 

if you mounth them horizontally, they are right next to a fan with space to breath

 

 

 

[Windows95]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

which side are you talking about.

if the bottom hdd rack, it's getting the air from the PSU fan.

For the ssd tray, ssd don't generate enough heat, so don't worry.

I thought you were talking about an ITX case, that case is not that small.

see post above

[SupaKomputa]

that's a standard position. i've seen worse.

i won't repeat my statements, if you don't like the case, don't buy it.